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As i see it, all the US patent system is invalid with this kind of revelation. They can not claim any original idea any more, because of spying
by japasc 12y ago
As i see it, all the US patent system is invalid with this kind of revelation. They can not claim any original idea any more, because of spying
- colanderman 12y agoDon't be ridiculous. An idea is original if there's no prior art. If there's no prior art, spying on other people doesn't magically cause prior art to spring into being.
- japasc 12y agoIf its developed as a secret, you will never prove prior art.
- chippy 12y agoI agree but it's not totally ridiculous, because prior art has to be published or at least known about. So if a technology was worked in a secret laboratory which was stolen, there was no prior art as all the thieves would say was "we've been working on this for years also, and released it before you".
- panzi 12y ago"And pretty soon My name in Dnepropetrovsk is cursed, When he finds out I published first!"
- 6chars 12y agoEver since I meet this man, my life is not the same.
- colanderman 12y agoSo in your world, the NSA shares all the secrets it finds with random patent thieves?
- ghshephard 12y agoHas there been a single report, story, or even rumor that the United States has ever used the NSA to assist american corporations in developing inventions? Nothing in any of the snowden reports even hints at this - so I think your comment that "no patents have original ideas any more because of spying" is a little out there.
- sharpneli 12y agoThey do have plans for it https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/05/us-governments-plans-use-economic-espionage-benefit-american-corporations/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/05/us-governments... GP's comment is still far fetched. But US does indeed contemplate on starting economic espionage if they ever lose their tech lead.
- japasc 12y agoAs the link shows, its from 2009. Also as an example, its proven that the Canadian spied on Brazil for trade secrets. If Canadians do, for sure the principal do it also. And because the law in US forces you to obey secret courts with secret orders, you are never sure about the truth nor trust any claim from a US citizen/corporation.
- uaygsfdbzf 12y agoSure: http://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlantic-espionage-claimed-german-wind-company http://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlanti...
- _up 12y agoThe NSA allegedly stole Windturbine tech from a German Firm called Enercon GmbH and gave it to GE. Article in German: http://www.zeit.de/1998/39/199839.c_krypto_.xml http://www.zeit.de/1998/39/199839.c_krypto_.xml