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I think you fear learning something new more than anything else and calling yourself a C simpleton doesn't really help your argument. Like I said in another com

by _qc3o 12y ago

I think you fear learning something new more than anything else and calling yourself a C simpleton doesn't really help your argument. Like I said in another comment when assemblers were being developed the same exact arguments were thrown around so if history is a guide then these tools are the future and the sooner you learn them the better position you'll be in.

codehero 12y ago
You're as judgmental as errordeveloper; let me do the namedropping this time. I have timestamped when I started playing with certain technologies: SVG: 2001 AJAX/Javascript: 2002 Windows CE: 2005 DirectFB: 2005 FLTK: 2006 SCons: 2007 I have been learning new things my entire career. I have wasted tons of time trying to support the "better" technology. mbedder presents a very weak case in my mind. My question to you is how has your experience with mbedder been so far? You seem to understand its superiority. Does the code size and RAM consumption live up to your expectations?
- dkarapetyan 12y ago
  You don't have to prove anything to me but your reaction is not rational. I don't think anyone will argue that a tool that integrates unit testing and model checking into a coherent experience is an overall win. As for code size and other matters it depends on your use-case and in this day and age I think a few MBs here and there is not going to make or break an embedded product offering especially if whoever is making that product can deliver it with less bugs.
  - _pmf_ 12y ago
    > As for code size and other matters it depends on your use-case and in this day and age I think a few MBs here and there is not going to make or break an embedded product offering especially if whoever is making that product can deliver it with less bugs. This statement alone disqualifies you from making any comment about embedded development and automotive embedded development in particular.
    - kabouseng 12y ago
      Agree
- errordeveloper 12y ago
  You just keep sounding that way, which doesn't neccesarly means you are that bad. It's just how you came across with your original comment ;)

by _qc3o 12y ago

codehero 12y ago

You're as judgmental as errordeveloper; let me do the namedropping this time. I have timestamped when I started playing with certain technologies: SVG: 2001 AJAX/Javascript: 2002 Windows CE: 2005 DirectFB: 2005 FLTK: 2006 SCons: 2007 I have been learning new things my entire career. I have wasted tons of time trying to support the "better" technology. mbedder presents a very weak case in my mind. My question to you is how has your experience with mbedder been so far? You seem to understand its superiority. Does the code size and RAM consumption live up to your expectations?

dkarapetyan 12y ago
You don't have to prove anything to me but your reaction is not rational. I don't think anyone will argue that a tool that integrates unit testing and model checking into a coherent experience is an overall win. As for code size and other matters it depends on your use-case and in this day and age I think a few MBs here and there is not going to make or break an embedded product offering especially if whoever is making that product can deliver it with less bugs.
- _pmf_ 12y ago
  > As for code size and other matters it depends on your use-case and in this day and age I think a few MBs here and there is not going to make or break an embedded product offering especially if whoever is making that product can deliver it with less bugs. This statement alone disqualifies you from making any comment about embedded development and automotive embedded development in particular.
  - kabouseng 12y ago
    Agree
errordeveloper 12y ago
You just keep sounding that way, which doesn't neccesarly means you are that bad. It's just how you came across with your original comment ;)