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I disagree, this is really fast and totally rivals a native app. What are you computer specs and what browser are you using?

clarry 12y ago
Do you disagree with the core dump on my hard drive? Firefox 31 ESR, Atom N450, 1G of RAM. Gimp for instance runs pretty smooth (although there are much faster still options if you don't need all the features); I use it a lot.
- Igglyboo 12y ago
  I disagree with your statement that native code is the way to go for snappy drawing apps, maybe for low end hardware like what you're using but for more powerful hardware there is no downside.
- coldtea 12y ago
  >Do you disagree with the core dump on my hard drive? No, he and I disagree that your experience is typical for everybody. Most people in this thread (including me) praised this for its quick loading, snapiness and speed. Perhaps "Atom" and "1GB of RAM" doesn't cuts it for this kind of in-browser app, despite GIMP (a native app) running "pretty smooth). It makes sense if this has a minimum memory use requirement -- below which you can't run it at all because you don't have enough space that it needs to load, and after which you're OK and it's fast. That said, people have run it on their iPads, and it's extremely snappy there too. I'm also not sure the core dump was because of "out of memory". How about some glitch with your graphics card driver and the canvas renderer (which is not uncommon)?
  - clarry 12y ago
    > I'm also not sure the core dump was because of "out of memory". out of memory: 0x0000000000020000 bytes requested Segmentation fault (core dumped) [..] #0 0x0000097c6124c82a in kill () at <stdin>:2 #1 0x0000097c74ed6fd4 in XRE_FreeAppData () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #2 <signal handler called> #3 0x0000097cd08b6957 in mozalloc_abort () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libmozalloc.so.1.0 #4 0x0000097cd08b6a07 in mozalloc_handle_oom () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libmozalloc.so.1.0 #5 0x0000097cd08b6707 in moz_xmalloc () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libmozalloc.so.1.0 #6 0x0000097c73667172 in NS_CycleCollectorSuspect3 () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #7 0x0000097c736624d0 in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #8 0x0000097c73660702 in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #9 0x0000097c75548bf9 in js::IterateGrayObjects () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #10 0x0000097c7554f8a5 in js::IterateGrayObjects () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #11 0x0000097c7555242c in js::IterateGrayObjects () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #12 0x0000097c7365e71f in NS_DebugBreak () ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #13 0x0000097c7365e644 in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #14 0x0000097c73661e9c in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #15 0x0000097c736634ed in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #16 0x0000097c73664d0d in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #17 0x0000097c73665d7f in NS_CycleCollectorSuspect3 () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #18 0x0000097c74474d6a in DumpCompleteHeap () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #19 0x0000097c74475cdc in DumpCompleteHeap () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #20 0x0000097c736b2fcb in XRE_AddJarManifestLocation () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #21 0x0000097c736b3135 in XRE_AddJarManifestLocation () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #22 0x0000097c736b006d in XRE_AddJarManifestLocation () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #23 0x0000097c73648291 in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- #24 0x0000097c738b8006 in std::vector<std::pair<int, int>, std::allocator<std::pair<int, int> > >::_M_insert_aux () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #25 0x0000097c73888ec9 in std::_Rb_tree<int, std::pair<int const, std::string>, std::_Select1st<std::pair<int const, std::string> >, std::less<int>, std::allocator<std::pair<int const, std::string> > >::_M_erase () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #26 0x0000097c7431f7fe in js::BaseProxyHandler::finalizeInBackground () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #27 0x0000097c74f0bf93 in XRE_StartupTimelineRecord () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #28 0x0000097c74ecd2ea in XRE_InitCommandLine () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #29 0x0000097c74ecd4d1 in XRE_InitCommandLine () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #30 0x0000097c74ecd8b6 in XRE_main () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #31 0x0000097a4a703f87 in atexit () from /usr/local/bin/firefox-esr #32 0x0000097a4a7038b1 in _start () from /usr/local/bin/firefox-esr #33 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
    - coldtea 12y ago
      Fair enough!

clarry 12y ago

Do you disagree with the core dump on my hard drive? Firefox 31 ESR, Atom N450, 1G of RAM. Gimp for instance runs pretty smooth (although there are much faster still options if you don't need all the features); I use it a lot.

Igglyboo 12y ago
I disagree with your statement that native code is the way to go for snappy drawing apps, maybe for low end hardware like what you're using but for more powerful hardware there is no downside.
coldtea 12y ago
>Do you disagree with the core dump on my hard drive? No, he and I disagree that your experience is typical for everybody. Most people in this thread (including me) praised this for its quick loading, snapiness and speed. Perhaps "Atom" and "1GB of RAM" doesn't cuts it for this kind of in-browser app, despite GIMP (a native app) running "pretty smooth). It makes sense if this has a minimum memory use requirement -- below which you can't run it at all because you don't have enough space that it needs to load, and after which you're OK and it's fast. That said, people have run it on their iPads, and it's extremely snappy there too. I'm also not sure the core dump was because of "out of memory". How about some glitch with your graphics card driver and the canvas renderer (which is not uncommon)?
- clarry 12y ago
  > I'm also not sure the core dump was because of "out of memory". out of memory: 0x0000000000020000 bytes requested Segmentation fault (core dumped) [..] #0 0x0000097c6124c82a in kill () at <stdin>:2 #1 0x0000097c74ed6fd4 in XRE_FreeAppData () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #2 <signal handler called> #3 0x0000097cd08b6957 in mozalloc_abort () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libmozalloc.so.1.0 #4 0x0000097cd08b6a07 in mozalloc_handle_oom () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libmozalloc.so.1.0 #5 0x0000097cd08b6707 in moz_xmalloc () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libmozalloc.so.1.0 #6 0x0000097c73667172 in NS_CycleCollectorSuspect3 () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #7 0x0000097c736624d0 in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #8 0x0000097c73660702 in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #9 0x0000097c75548bf9 in js::IterateGrayObjects () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #10 0x0000097c7554f8a5 in js::IterateGrayObjects () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #11 0x0000097c7555242c in js::IterateGrayObjects () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #12 0x0000097c7365e71f in NS_DebugBreak () ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #13 0x0000097c7365e644 in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #14 0x0000097c73661e9c in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #15 0x0000097c736634ed in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #16 0x0000097c73664d0d in NS_DebugBreak () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #17 0x0000097c73665d7f in NS_CycleCollectorSuspect3 () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #18 0x0000097c74474d6a in DumpCompleteHeap () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #19 0x0000097c74475cdc in DumpCompleteHeap () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #20 0x0000097c736b2fcb in XRE_AddJarManifestLocation () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #21 0x0000097c736b3135 in XRE_AddJarManifestLocation () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #22 0x0000097c736b006d in XRE_AddJarManifestLocation () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #23 0x0000097c73648291 in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- #24 0x0000097c738b8006 in std::vector<std::pair<int, int>, std::allocator<std::pair<int, int> > >::_M_insert_aux () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #25 0x0000097c73888ec9 in std::_Rb_tree<int, std::pair<int const, std::string>, std::_Select1st<std::pair<int const, std::string> >, std::less<int>, std::allocator<std::pair<int const, std::string> > >::_M_erase () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #26 0x0000097c7431f7fe in js::BaseProxyHandler::finalizeInBackground () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #27 0x0000097c74f0bf93 in XRE_StartupTimelineRecord () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #28 0x0000097c74ecd2ea in XRE_InitCommandLine () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #29 0x0000097c74ecd4d1 in XRE_InitCommandLine () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #30 0x0000097c74ecd8b6 in XRE_main () from /usr/local/lib/firefox-esr-31.0/libxul.so.1.0 #31 0x0000097a4a703f87 in atexit () from /usr/local/bin/firefox-esr #32 0x0000097a4a7038b1 in _start () from /usr/local/bin/firefox-esr #33 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
  - coldtea 12y ago
    Fair enough!