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Most of your list either use fashion for status signaling or are alternate means of status signaling. Specifically, the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th; and t
by billswift 17y ago
Most of your list either use fashion for status signaling or are alternate means of status signaling. Specifically, the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th; and the 3rd, 7th, and 9th can though not always. I think Robin tends to overemphasize signaling in various issues, but not this time.
- decode 17y agoMaybe I'm not thinking about it in the right way, but I don't see how most of those things signal status (and some don't signal anything at all). Or perhaps I was just too terse in my list. Here are examples of what people might be thinking with some of them: - To enhance one's body (appear more attractive, muscular, thin, etc): being thin is inherently better than not, so I want to appear more thin. - Self expression of any number of things: it's important to me that people not kill animals, so I'll be conspicuous in the ways I don't wear leather. - Aesthetic taste: I prefer the look of the color red, so I'll wear it for my own pleasure. - Entertainment: keeping up with fashion is stimulating to me, so I'll do it for fun. Could you expound on why you think these things signal status in some way?
- hughprime 17y agoMany of these are, I think, signaling of things other than status -- e.g. membership of a group. I also think this thread is missing the point slightly: status signaling doesn't explain every clothing decision ever made by anybody, but it does explain why fashions change the way they do.
- billswift 17y agoI'm not much into reading about signaling and similar issues, but from what Robin has written, especially over the last few months, I think most signaling, eg group membership, involves status signaling among its other issues.