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Frankly, I am appalled by the LACK of discussion of these topics on this hacker site. Why is there a taboo on politics? Why is it out of reach? 400 innocent ch

by jdimov 12y ago

Frankly, I am appalled by the LACK of discussion of these topics on this hacker site. Why is there a taboo on politics? Why is it out of reach? 400 innocent children were killed indiscriminately in the span of 6 weeks in Gaza. But your vim configuration is more worthy of discussion here? Idk...

zimpenfish 12y ago
I suspect it's minimised because a) politics is very much a personal thing which b) tends to explode very quickly into name-calling and sniping and c) there's already about 8 jillion political discussion places on the intertents.
- jdimov 12y ago
  Fuck those 8 jillion blabbing places. WE are the only ones who can do something about it! WE, the hackers, the creators of our reality, the readers of this site. Those discussions belong HERE.
  - jamespo 12y ago
    Indeed, you'd better get going on your World Peace As A Service startup.
idlewords 12y ago
Technical forum is technical.
krapp 12y ago
People don't approach politics rationally. For instance: >400 innocent children were killed indiscriminately in the span of 6 weeks in Gaza The bias implicit in this suggests that you consider that either someone agrees with your point of view, or else they support the slaughter of innocent children. Which further suggests that what you're looking for is not discussion, but pro-Palestinian advocacy, as there is no room for discussion in your framing. And of course it's impossible for me to suggest the nature of your bias without expressing my own bias. Which is fine, if that's what you want there are other forums for such things, but that's not what most people come to Hacker News for. One-sided political discussions are not very interesting, and never fruitful.
- zo1 12y ago
  "The bias implicit in this suggests that you consider that either someone agrees with your point of view, or else they support the slaughter of innocent children." There is no bias. Either he is lying, or he is not. You can sugar-coat the discussion any way you want to wiggle out of it, but facts and lies are what count. And yeah, you're right. There is only one side, and that's the side of "the best available truth". Not that people understand any of that jazz with all the "bias" being thrown back and forth in the media. Your post included. Honestly, I don't even know enough about this recent Gaza/Israel thing. Just commenting on your "bias" retort to the parent's assertion that 400 children were killed.
  - krapp 12y ago
    You are right, I don't understand the situation well enough to have an unbiased or objective opinion about it.
mrbill 12y ago
This is not a political discussion forum.

by jdimov 12y ago

zimpenfish 12y ago

I suspect it's minimised because a) politics is very much a personal thing which b) tends to explode very quickly into name-calling and sniping and c) there's already about 8 jillion political discussion places on the intertents.

jdimov 12y ago
Fuck those 8 jillion blabbing places. WE are the only ones who can do something about it! WE, the hackers, the creators of our reality, the readers of this site. Those discussions belong HERE.
- jamespo 12y ago
  Indeed, you'd better get going on your World Peace As A Service startup.

idlewords 12y ago

Technical forum is technical.

krapp 12y ago

People don't approach politics rationally. For instance: >400 innocent children were killed indiscriminately in the span of 6 weeks in Gaza The bias implicit in this suggests that you consider that either someone agrees with your point of view, or else they support the slaughter of innocent children. Which further suggests that what you're looking for is not discussion, but pro-Palestinian advocacy, as there is no room for discussion in your framing. And of course it's impossible for me to suggest the nature of your bias without expressing my own bias. Which is fine, if that's what you want there are other forums for such things, but that's not what most people come to Hacker News for. One-sided political discussions are not very interesting, and never fruitful.

zo1 12y ago
"The bias implicit in this suggests that you consider that either someone agrees with your point of view, or else they support the slaughter of innocent children." There is no bias. Either he is lying, or he is not. You can sugar-coat the discussion any way you want to wiggle out of it, but facts and lies are what count. And yeah, you're right. There is only one side, and that's the side of "the best available truth". Not that people understand any of that jazz with all the "bias" being thrown back and forth in the media. Your post included. Honestly, I don't even know enough about this recent Gaza/Israel thing. Just commenting on your "bias" retort to the parent's assertion that 400 children were killed.
- krapp 12y ago
  You are right, I don't understand the situation well enough to have an unbiased or objective opinion about it.

mrbill 12y ago

This is not a political discussion forum.