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Right, but what would that look like? Would the FISA court jail a citizen without a trial, and can you imagine a FISA judge wanting to make that call, knowing t
by skue 12y ago
Right, but what would that look like? Would the FISA court jail a citizen without a trial, and can you imagine a FISA judge wanting to make that call, knowing that their decision will soon become public? Because once someone is prosecuted the U.S. govt would really have difficulty enforcing silence. It's one thing to force a company to be silent about surveillance, it's quite another to force individuals to be silent about being jailed. I'd like to think we haven't gone so far off the tracks that the first amendment wouldn't ultimately triumph in that case.
- deciplex 12y agoIt's called 'disappeared' and we're close.
- idlewords 12y agoWatch what you say. Final warning.
- dijit 12y agoit's not so cut and dry, first they discredit you. then they say you did something illegal and you're immoral. then you appear like you're lashing out at a government- trying to blame them instead of atoning for past transgressions.
- amirmc 12y agoIn an era of 'parallel construction', you build a separate case and use that as leverage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
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- mattmanser 12y agoThat's simply blackmail, not 'parallel construction'.
- dijit 12y agoJust as 'Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder' is simply 'Shell Shock' Language changes depending on how you want the person to feel about a subject. if you want people to hate and revile someone for doing something you do call it something strong and fierce (blackmail) if you want to do something yourself make it sound lawful (IE; parallel construction).
- fnordfnordfnord 12y agoIt'll get the job done.
- mike_hearn 12y agoI have read that the FISA court can indeed hold sometime in contempt secretly. For all we know if Yahoo had continued to resist their executives would have simply started disappearing.