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I wish there was a way to post anon here. I create a new id every now and then and post but no one sees the posting because it's new... I wish more people woul
by comrade1 12y ago
I wish there was a way to post anon here. I create a new id every now and then and post but no one sees the posting because it's new...
I wish more people would be outraged by where the u.s. Is going and just leave. If you're educated, have desirable skills, you can just come to Europe. If you think you can change what's happening in the u.s. I do not agree with you. You will lose to the political class. They have 100% of their time to focus on restraining you while you have to focus on building your business.
The u.s. has become a force for evil in the world. It has been at war for almost the entire time of its existence. In the past Americans were protected from that reality but now the u.s. seems to be even at war with its citizens and businesses.
If you don't like what's happening in the u.s. you can quit your company you're building and become a politician, or you can just take your skills and knowledge to someplace different. But don't forget to continue filing your u.s. taxes.
- idlewords 12y agoSome of us are outraged by where the U.S. is going but stay to try to fix it. Otherwise you get adverse selection effects, like when all the non-crazies left New Hampshire. Plus have you ever had a European burrito? It's not pretty.
- rsync 12y agoWell, at least there is finally passable sushi being made in Zurich. That's a very, very new thing. All kidding aside - the euro countries are no better than the US in these areas. They have different code-names and the agencies are different, but they're all going the same direction.
- comrade1 12y agoYou're just plain wrong. Not about the sushi. Europe doesn't have the means nor the corporate-government cooperation that the u.s. has for spying. It happens in Europe, even Switzerland, but for good, not evil. For example, Switzerland reoprting to the Red Cross the CIA rendition flights that it learned through its satellite communications monitoring program. There's decent Mexican inn Basel. A Mexican and 1/2 Mexican Swiss have a restaurant.
- comrade1 12y agoBtw, yes I know that it was reported to the Red Cross anonymously, not officially.
- idlewords 12y agoEurope's a big place. My corner of it had a secret CIA prison. Also there's a Vietnamese restaurant here called "Hong Kong Lounge". The crimes don't end at the US border.
- comrade1 12y agoPoland? Wasn't there political fallout from that?
- abroncs 12y agoAlso Romania.
- idlewords 12y agoAbout as much as in the US.
- jwr 12y agoBy which he means, not nearly anything close to what could even remotely be considered enough. We in the EU like to smugly look at the USA with an air of superiority. But we're not much different — there is a small group that is outraged, and most people simply don't care.
- comrade1 12y agoWhat are you doing to change the system?
- idlewords 12y agoI got a bumper sticker!
- hugogee 12y agoI make the best MoFro burritos and tacos. I'll come and cook for everyone! I think the tequila is worse than the burritos though. o,0
- happyscrappy 12y ago> like when all the non-crazies left New Hampshire Huh?
- zo1 12y ago"Some of us are outraged by where the U.S. is going but stay to try to fix it" Do you truly believe you'll be able to change anything? Remember, people that reason about these sorts of things are the exception, not the rule. The majority just gobble up whatever "militaristic propaganda" (as one of the siblings called it) is fed to them by the media.
- 3pt14159 12y agoThis is why I haven't taken countless opportunities to move to the US from Toronto. Willingly working in America is supporting the surveillance and military state. Yes, Canada is part of Five Eyes, but the political will to surveil everything is centred in America and the UK, Canada is just along for the ride because the cost to our defensive interests is too great to go against our NATO / NORAD arrangements.
- jqm 12y agoEurope's management has it's own set of problems. I might add, Europe has also been at war for most of the time it has been inhabited. Just because parts of Europe have taken a break for the last 60 years doesn't negate this.
- comrade1 12y agoI think the u.s. Has been at war for all but 21 years of its existence. I could be wrong - it was a stat from a website with an agenda.
- GabrielF00 12y agoThat's nonsense. The US was not involved in armed conflict from 1920 (end of involvement in the Russian Civil War) to 1941 (start of <edit: American involvement in> WWII). That's 21 years right there. Maybe they're saying that 21 years was the longest period between military conflicts.
- willthames 12y ago1941 was not the start of WWII. It started in 1939.
- GabrielF00 12y agoYes, but the question is how many years has the United States not been at war. The US did not enter WWII until 1941.
- prof_hobart 12y agoNot if you're Chinese, or Abyssinian. The conflicts that became WWII started at different times in different places.
- dragonwriter 12y ago> The US was not involved in armed conflict from 1920 (end of involvement in the Russian Civil War) to 1941 Except (among others): 1) The US intervention in the insurgency in Cuba (the "Sugar Intervention") which ran from 1917-1922. 2) The US intervention in China from about 1922-1927. 3) The use of the US military to clear the protesting "Bonus Army" of US veterans in Washington D.C. in 1932. There may be 21 years without armed conflict by the US in its history, but they aren't 21 years in a row.
- jacquesm 12y agoThe age of your account has absolutely nothing to do with who sees your posting. Making new ids every now and then is strange, there is absolutely no need for that unless you are divulging something that might cost you your job or that you're embarrassed to share. As for your 'come to Europe' call, America needs critical Americans just as much as Europe needs critical Europeans. The better solution would be to push for change locally, rather than to instigate a brain drain. Europe has just as many problems as the US does, the only difference is that we do not yet have a European president with sufficient power to wield to cause real trouble. But we're getting there. And then what would you tell any Americans that you've tempted here with greener pastures? If you want to improve the world the best place to do it is right where you're living.
- spindritf 12y agoMaking new ids every now and then is strange Cycling through IDs online seems like a great way to prevent stuff from haunting you later. It's hard to predict what will turn out to be embarrassing or can cost you your job later. In theory, you would need to be very careful to prevent a determined adversary from chaining those IDs together and back to you. In practice, it seems unlikely that anyone would be that determined.
- IanDrake 12y agoThe US is still full of good people and so long as those people are allowed to have guns, I'm staying. Once the government disarms us, I'll probably leave. That will be the final nail in freedom's coffin.
- idlewords 12y agoI can't wait to disarm you, brother. And the country will be better for it. Hand over those guns!
- IanDrake 12y agoSure. Let's make sure only the government has guns. That always works out well, nothing bad ever happened with that. Our democratic government has never used force illegally, violated our rights, and has never exceeded its Constitutional authority. That's why there are so many popular posts on HN lauding the US government for its benevolence. Let me ask you, specifically, why would you want to disarm me? Take away guns, I have knife. Take away knifes, I have fertilizer and diesel fuel. Take those away, I have propane tanks and model rocket engines. Take those away, I have beer bottles, gasoline, and rags. Take all that away and we can't have BBQ's because no one has fuel to get there, propane to grill, beers to drink, knives to cut meat, and rags to clean up. I don't want to live in your "safe" world. Bother, you have effect confused with cause. Guns don't cause violence. People cause violence and will use what ever tool is at their disposal to have that effect.
- IanDrake 12y agoLots of brave down voters with no logical discourse to offer today.
- bruceboughton 12y agoPerhaps because there are plenty of countries whose populations aren't armed, yet still capable of hosting a BBQ?
- beedogs 12y agoI left. And the country I moved to has lurched even further into the realm of "authoritarian police state" than the US. I'm of the opinion that all Western governments are headed down this path, inevitably. It's going to take a lot of violence and bloodshed (read: murdering the rich in their sleep) to "fix" this.
- bruceboughton 12y ago>> murdering the rich in their sleep Well, you're a pleasant fellow.
- beedogs 12y agoI'm a realistic person. That's what it usually takes to fix these situations. Pick up a history book.
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- cryoshon 12y agoI mostly agree, but remember that evil doesn't stop just because you remove your complicity from it-- it has to be actively contained or else it just continues to spread. I agree that the US is a force for evil in the world. Getting other Americans to believe this is extremely difficult, as it is directly contrary to decades of militaristic propaganda.