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Facebook provides plenty of reason to leave Facebook. The only problem is getting a critical mass of people somewhere else. Everyone's still on Facebook because

by imgabe 12y ago

Facebook provides plenty of reason to leave Facebook. The only problem is getting a critical mass of people somewhere else. Everyone's still on Facebook because all their friends are on Facebook.

Karunamon 12y ago
Not to the average person, it doesn't. HN's hatred of facebook is a well documented thing, but to the average user, it's the place where you go to look at pictures and talk with friends and so on.
- adrianlmm 12y ago
  >> HN's hatred of facebook is a well documented Where and why? The last thing I knew is that the Facebok hatred came from Google supporters who hate Facebook because it is Google's nemesis.
  - Karunamon 12y ago
    Find any thread on HN that deals with Facebook primarily. The comments will run along the lines of (evil/intelligence gathering front/destroying communication) and all manner of other emotionally loaded and/or objectively incorrect nonsense. There's not liking or not using a service, and then there's pathological hatred. I have never read a single positive thought on Facebook on this entire site in my entire time here.
    - adrianlmm 12y ago
      >> Find any thread on HN that deals with Facebook primarily. The comments will run along the lines of (evil/intelligence gathering front/destroying communication) and all manner of other emotionally loaded and/or objectively incorrect nonsense. I know them, they all express hatred for Facebook, but curiously, they never explain why. >> There's not liking or not using a service, and then there's pathological hatred. There is, but the reason is unknow to me. >> I have never read a single positive thought on Facebook on this entire site in my entire time here. Neather I, but again, the reason of so much hatred remains a mistery. My theory is that those people hate Facebook because it is something that Google can't be, no matter how hard it tries, and they think Google should have that spot. But why? Are they getting pay to do it, it is because they are die hard fan boys?, or maybe both.
      - magicalist 12y ago
        You're both off in the weeds. There are many many posts on HN talking about why someone got rid of their facebook account, or begging for an alternative, or throwing them under the PRISM bus. However, many of them give explicit reasoning (sometimes in great detail), so not part of some pro-google astroturfing campaign, and there are many posts extolling the virtues of facebook, if only for practical reasons, so if you've "never read a single positive thought", you're suffering from severe selection or confirmation bias.
        adrianlmm 12y ago
        >> However, many of them give explicit reasoning (sometimes in great detail), so not part of some pro-google astroturfing campaign I've never seen one. The reasons I've read are mostly emotional, other reasons because of technical issues that can be mitigated just changing the configurations, other reasons because they don't like Mark Zuckerberg. Other reasons of why they don't like it are applied to G+ also, yet they use G+ w/o complains. Now, if you can provide examples of valid reasons, then I'm all ears.
        pessimizer 12y ago
        https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why+I+hate+facebook https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why+I+hate+facebook
        adrianlmm 12y ago
        I,m sorry, but the question is why do Nycombinator users hate Facebook, not how to use a search engine.
        magicalist 12y ago
        ah, so by "they never explain why" you mean they gave reasons that you didn't deem "valid". As I said, off in the weeds. In any case, here's lots of counter examples for you: https://hn.algolia.com/#!/comment/forever/0/deleted%20facebook%20account https://hn.algolia.com/#!/comment/forever/0/deleted%20facebo... (sorry, lots of emotional reasons in there too...it's hard to filter out a completely valid reason for stopping the use of something)
crdoconnor 12y ago
>Facebook provides plenty of reason to leave Facebook. While true, G+ doesn't actually address any of those reasons.

by imgabe 12y ago

Facebook provides plenty of reason to leave Facebook. The only problem is getting a critical mass of people somewhere else. Everyone's still on Facebook because all their friends are on Facebook.

Karunamon 12y ago

Not to the average person, it doesn't. HN's hatred of facebook is a well documented thing, but to the average user, it's the place where you go to look at pictures and talk with friends and so on.

adrianlmm 12y ago
>> HN's hatred of facebook is a well documented Where and why? The last thing I knew is that the Facebok hatred came from Google supporters who hate Facebook because it is Google's nemesis.
- Karunamon 12y ago
  Find any thread on HN that deals with Facebook primarily. The comments will run along the lines of (evil/intelligence gathering front/destroying communication) and all manner of other emotionally loaded and/or objectively incorrect nonsense. There's not liking or not using a service, and then there's pathological hatred. I have never read a single positive thought on Facebook on this entire site in my entire time here.
  - adrianlmm 12y ago
    >> Find any thread on HN that deals with Facebook primarily. The comments will run along the lines of (evil/intelligence gathering front/destroying communication) and all manner of other emotionally loaded and/or objectively incorrect nonsense. I know them, they all express hatred for Facebook, but curiously, they never explain why. >> There's not liking or not using a service, and then there's pathological hatred. There is, but the reason is unknow to me. >> I have never read a single positive thought on Facebook on this entire site in my entire time here. Neather I, but again, the reason of so much hatred remains a mistery. My theory is that those people hate Facebook because it is something that Google can't be, no matter how hard it tries, and they think Google should have that spot. But why? Are they getting pay to do it, it is because they are die hard fan boys?, or maybe both.
    - magicalist 12y ago
      You're both off in the weeds. There are many many posts on HN talking about why someone got rid of their facebook account, or begging for an alternative, or throwing them under the PRISM bus. However, many of them give explicit reasoning (sometimes in great detail), so not part of some pro-google astroturfing campaign, and there are many posts extolling the virtues of facebook, if only for practical reasons, so if you've "never read a single positive thought", you're suffering from severe selection or confirmation bias.
      - adrianlmm 12y ago
        >> However, many of them give explicit reasoning (sometimes in great detail), so not part of some pro-google astroturfing campaign I've never seen one. The reasons I've read are mostly emotional, other reasons because of technical issues that can be mitigated just changing the configurations, other reasons because they don't like Mark Zuckerberg. Other reasons of why they don't like it are applied to G+ also, yet they use G+ w/o complains. Now, if you can provide examples of valid reasons, then I'm all ears.
        pessimizer 12y ago
        https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why+I+hate+facebook https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why+I+hate+facebook
        adrianlmm 12y ago
        I,m sorry, but the question is why do Nycombinator users hate Facebook, not how to use a search engine.
        magicalist 12y ago
        ah, so by "they never explain why" you mean they gave reasons that you didn't deem "valid". As I said, off in the weeds. In any case, here's lots of counter examples for you: https://hn.algolia.com/#!/comment/forever/0/deleted%20facebook%20account https://hn.algolia.com/#!/comment/forever/0/deleted%20facebo... (sorry, lots of emotional reasons in there too...it's hard to filter out a completely valid reason for stopping the use of something)

crdoconnor 12y ago

>Facebook provides plenty of reason to leave Facebook. While true, G+ doesn't actually address any of those reasons.