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Twitter, Inc. Announces $1.3B Convertible Notes Offering

14 points by hownottowrite 12y ago

xutopia 12y ago
What does this mean in layman's terms?
- matchagaucho 12y ago
  Loan Twitter money now. They'll pay back in 2019 or 2021, with interest.
  - JonathonW 12y ago
    Assuming they don't go under before then. Twitter has yet to turn a profit.
    - jlas 12y ago
      i.e. when people start realizing that frivolous social media start-ups provide way less value then their inordinate valuations and the bubble bursts.
      - lumens 12y ago
        IMHO, Twitter provides exceptional value... but their ability to monetize that value is still catching up.
      - blumkvist 12y ago
        It's such a shame... I like twitter so much. They just took so much money, they don't really have a choice right now, but to ride the train.
- bretpiatt 12y ago
  Twitter gets $1.3B in cash for a promise to pay interest in either cash or Twitter stock and eventually pay off the loan likely in the form of Twitter stock.
- cliftonk 12y ago
  They'd rather take on debt than issue equity. Convertible debt turns into equity in the future unless it's paid off on some defined schedule.
- trevelyan 12y ago
  They have no way of making money or controlling costs.
- jonmcauliffe 12y ago
  twitter would like to borrow money from you. they will pay a reduced interest rate on the loan. in exchange, you will get the option to convert your loan into shares of twitter at a designated, unchanging price--likely near the current stock price. this is a great deal for twitter, as long as their stock price does not go up. in other words, twitter is calling the top of the market for its own shares -- to the tune of 1.3B. bezos did this to great effect with amazon in the late 90s. he did in fact correctly predict a prolonged stagnation in share price.
  - howlin 12y ago
    Of course, the share price stagnation is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the share price rises too much, bond holders will convert and cash out early. Even the understanding that this is possible puts a damper on peoples' assessment of the stock's upside potential.
crazychrome 12y ago
the burst of social media hype. who'll be the next?
ffn 12y ago
So... are the notes (and associated terms) open to the public? If so, where does one go about buying it?
joncooper 12y ago
Effectively they issue a bond bundled with a bunch of options that may be exercised in exchange for giving up ownership of the bond, "converting" it to equity. This isn't necessarily driven by a view on the equity valuation. It's more often driven by high realized volatility in the equity, which increases the value of the equity optionality. Correspondingly this decreases the value of the fixed income aspect of the bond, which from the issuer's (Twitter) perspective means they pay less in interest. Note that "Twitter expects to enter into privately negotiated convertible note hedge transactions". This means that they will buy call spreads to help manage the EPS impact of increasing the fully-diluted share count. Realized volatility and the pricing across strikes of the option chain will be affected.

14 points by hownottowrite 12y ago

xutopia 12y ago

What does this mean in layman's terms?

matchagaucho 12y ago
Loan Twitter money now. They'll pay back in 2019 or 2021, with interest.
- JonathonW 12y ago
  Assuming they don't go under before then. Twitter has yet to turn a profit.
  - jlas 12y ago
    i.e. when people start realizing that frivolous social media start-ups provide way less value then their inordinate valuations and the bubble bursts.
    - lumens 12y ago
      IMHO, Twitter provides exceptional value... but their ability to monetize that value is still catching up.
    - blumkvist 12y ago
      It's such a shame... I like twitter so much. They just took so much money, they don't really have a choice right now, but to ride the train.
bretpiatt 12y ago
Twitter gets $1.3B in cash for a promise to pay interest in either cash or Twitter stock and eventually pay off the loan likely in the form of Twitter stock.
cliftonk 12y ago
They'd rather take on debt than issue equity. Convertible debt turns into equity in the future unless it's paid off on some defined schedule.
trevelyan 12y ago
They have no way of making money or controlling costs.
jonmcauliffe 12y ago
twitter would like to borrow money from you. they will pay a reduced interest rate on the loan. in exchange, you will get the option to convert your loan into shares of twitter at a designated, unchanging price--likely near the current stock price. this is a great deal for twitter, as long as their stock price does not go up. in other words, twitter is calling the top of the market for its own shares -- to the tune of 1.3B. bezos did this to great effect with amazon in the late 90s. he did in fact correctly predict a prolonged stagnation in share price.
- howlin 12y ago
  Of course, the share price stagnation is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If the share price rises too much, bond holders will convert and cash out early. Even the understanding that this is possible puts a damper on peoples' assessment of the stock's upside potential.

crazychrome 12y ago

the burst of social media hype. who'll be the next?

ffn 12y ago

So... are the notes (and associated terms) open to the public? If so, where does one go about buying it?

joncooper 12y ago

Effectively they issue a bond bundled with a bunch of options that may be exercised in exchange for giving up ownership of the bond, "converting" it to equity. This isn't necessarily driven by a view on the equity valuation. It's more often driven by high realized volatility in the equity, which increases the value of the equity optionality. Correspondingly this decreases the value of the fixed income aspect of the bond, which from the issuer's (Twitter) perspective means they pay less in interest. Note that "Twitter expects to enter into privately negotiated convertible note hedge transactions". This means that they will buy call spreads to help manage the EPS impact of increasing the fully-diluted share count. Realized volatility and the pricing across strikes of the option chain will be affected.