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Provided that the "solid consulting rate" isn't pure bullshit, then I don't see the problem here. In a traditional hiring process, you'd be hired, not work out

by donw 12y ago

Provided that the "solid consulting rate" isn't pure bullshit, then I don't see the problem here. In a traditional hiring process, you'd be hired, not work out in the first month, and then get fired. No unemployment or ongoing insurance for the employee, and a lot of paperwork and the possibility of a wrongful termination lawsuit for the employer. By starting things off on a contract, both the employer and the employee have a chance to evaluate one another. It's really exactly the same as the traditional hire-fire process, but with less paperwork, and clear expectations on both sides.

FLUX-YOU 12y ago
>By starting things off on a contract, both the employer and the employee have a chance to evaluate one another. It's really exactly the same as the traditional hire-fire process, but with less paperwork, and clear expectations on both sides. That's got to be compensation for New York not being a right-to-work state
kourt 12y ago
Automattic, the creator of WordPress, the blog and website tool. Still, every hire, without exception, goes through a two- to six-week contract period, and is paid the standard rate of $25 an hour. $25/hour: seriously?
- jurassic 12y ago
  That seems ridiculously low for any software job. I've known design interns making almost double that in SF.
exceptione 12y ago
I don't have a very sharp view of the practices in the US. In The Netherlands it is possible that the employer and the applicant agree to a proof period of maximally 2 months in which both sides are able to terminate the contract. It is also possible here to offer the applicant a temporary contract which can be renewed two times (for the same contract period). Both parties needs to keep to this contract, they can only end it on pre-negotiated terms. After two renewals of the contract the employer needs to let you go or your contract changes in a normal, non-temporary one. I think these measures are more appropriate to deal with uncertainties about possible misfits? It makes sure both parties make a commitment for trying to make it fit as I see it. I read something completely opposite here: «Candidates get about three weeks of work to complete in a week — and not much guidance. “It’s ‘Here’s your desk and some people you should know,’ ” Mr. Rusenko said.» I wonder if they could not improve their interviewing skills.
nerfhammer 12y ago
> “We tell people to take a vacation, and we pay them,” he said. That way, if it does not work out, “you have one less week of vacation, but the next time you take a vacation it can be a nicer one.” If I had 7 weeks vacation, maybe. Much less that you can basically only do a trial like this once a year, but spending half of your two weeks vacation a year might be worth a lot more than money.

by donw 12y ago

FLUX-YOU 12y ago

>By starting things off on a contract, both the employer and the employee have a chance to evaluate one another. It's really exactly the same as the traditional hire-fire process, but with less paperwork, and clear expectations on both sides. That's got to be compensation for New York not being a right-to-work state

kourt 12y ago

Automattic, the creator of WordPress, the blog and website tool. Still, every hire, without exception, goes through a two- to six-week contract period, and is paid the standard rate of $25 an hour. $25/hour: seriously?

jurassic 12y ago
That seems ridiculously low for any software job. I've known design interns making almost double that in SF.

exceptione 12y ago

I don't have a very sharp view of the practices in the US. In The Netherlands it is possible that the employer and the applicant agree to a proof period of maximally 2 months in which both sides are able to terminate the contract. It is also possible here to offer the applicant a temporary contract which can be renewed two times (for the same contract period). Both parties needs to keep to this contract, they can only end it on pre-negotiated terms. After two renewals of the contract the employer needs to let you go or your contract changes in a normal, non-temporary one. I think these measures are more appropriate to deal with uncertainties about possible misfits? It makes sure both parties make a commitment for trying to make it fit as I see it. I read something completely opposite here: «Candidates get about three weeks of work to complete in a week — and not much guidance. “It’s ‘Here’s your desk and some people you should know,’ ” Mr. Rusenko said.» I wonder if they could not improve their interviewing skills.

nerfhammer 12y ago

> “We tell people to take a vacation, and we pay them,” he said. That way, if it does not work out, “you have one less week of vacation, but the next time you take a vacation it can be a nicer one.” If I had 7 weeks vacation, maybe. Much less that you can basically only do a trial like this once a year, but spending half of your two weeks vacation a year might be worth a lot more than money.