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>they will be left alone to starve to death Stray animals can absolutely starve to death. >or die from sickness. Stray animals can absolutely get sick and di

>they will be left alone to starve to death Stray animals can absolutely starve to death. >or die from sickness. Stray animals can absolutely get sick and die. >they might attack other pets. Stray animals can absolutely get in fights with other animals, stray or otherwise >They might even make other pets sick by biting them. Stray animals can absolute transmit disease through bites, again to other strays or domestic pets. >They can easily become a nuisance in populated areas This seems reasonable; feral cat colonies aren't really an ideal selling point for an area. >although rural areas have a larger domain for stray animals. This also seems reasonable; there's more space in rural areas for strays to stake out a claim without bothering the human contingent. Can you please explain which parts are "basically speculation" and why you think they aren't based in fact? edit: And I pretty regularly get notices from the shelter where I adopted my cat, saying "We just rescued a large number of animals from a hoarder who was unable to take care of them, please help us find homes for them"; even if the shelter were a kill shelter, that's hardly the summary execution of the pet for the transgression of the owner. This is sounding more like weird local policy where you live (or speculation), as opposed to the fact you presented it as.

trhway 12y ago
it may happen that psychologically ill people among other things may do hoarding, of pets among other things. No argument here. In general these hoarding stories are just scarecrows. I personally knew an old lady with 17 cats in her apartment - it was wonderful - they followed you and around you and played and sat around you like a living cloud. She took perfect care of them, they were healthy and happy, the apartment was clean, etc... Another case i personally know was a happy family with a bunch of children and 5 Chihuahua living in their own house - they were forced to give up one dog because of the 4 dogs limit. Speaking about tough choice - how do you choose which of members of your family to give up?
- CocaKoala 12y ago
  That isn't a response to the question I asked; can you address the question? And even the scenario you presented here is hardly the summary execution that you listed as a fact previously; can you address that discrepancy?
  - trhway 12y ago
    >And even the scenario you presented here is hardly the summary execution that you listed as a fact previously; can you address that discrepancy? the dog was given up as the alternative was for it to be ultimately taken away by Animal Control and probably euthanized there - the only difference here is technical details - you mentioned shooting in your house and they use injection on their premises.
    - CocaKoala 12y ago
      That still isn't a response to the question I asked; can you address that question? And choosing an animal to be given up and taken to a shelter and possibly euthanized is nowhere near the same and shooting an animal on the premises. And again, that's a city-level ordinance, not a governmental one; it in no way applies to everybody, so I don't know why you're presenting it as inarguable fact. Edit: Honestly, the fact that I need to ask a question three times when it was very clearly laid out indicates that you're just ignoring it, which I can only assume means you don't actually have an answer. If you're interested in actually having a discussion instead of just saying foolish things and refusing to back them up, then please address my question; otherwise, you've got some pretty messed up and honestly harmful ideas that you're proposing here and I hope you're never in a position to enforce your beliefs on anything else.

trhway 12y ago

it may happen that psychologically ill people among other things may do hoarding, of pets among other things. No argument here. In general these hoarding stories are just scarecrows. I personally knew an old lady with 17 cats in her apartment - it was wonderful - they followed you and around you and played and sat around you like a living cloud. She took perfect care of them, they were healthy and happy, the apartment was clean, etc... Another case i personally know was a happy family with a bunch of children and 5 Chihuahua living in their own house - they were forced to give up one dog because of the 4 dogs limit. Speaking about tough choice - how do you choose which of members of your family to give up?

CocaKoala 12y ago
That isn't a response to the question I asked; can you address the question? And even the scenario you presented here is hardly the summary execution that you listed as a fact previously; can you address that discrepancy?
- trhway 12y ago
  >And even the scenario you presented here is hardly the summary execution that you listed as a fact previously; can you address that discrepancy? the dog was given up as the alternative was for it to be ultimately taken away by Animal Control and probably euthanized there - the only difference here is technical details - you mentioned shooting in your house and they use injection on their premises.
  - CocaKoala 12y ago
    That still isn't a response to the question I asked; can you address that question? And choosing an animal to be given up and taken to a shelter and possibly euthanized is nowhere near the same and shooting an animal on the premises. And again, that's a city-level ordinance, not a governmental one; it in no way applies to everybody, so I don't know why you're presenting it as inarguable fact. Edit: Honestly, the fact that I need to ask a question three times when it was very clearly laid out indicates that you're just ignoring it, which I can only assume means you don't actually have an answer. If you're interested in actually having a discussion instead of just saying foolish things and refusing to back them up, then please address my question; otherwise, you've got some pretty messed up and honestly harmful ideas that you're proposing here and I hope you're never in a position to enforce your beliefs on anything else.