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"I get my hackles raised every time I see one on the roads. Bikes aren't automobiles no matter how much we debate about it. They shouldn't be sharing the road w

"I get my hackles raised every time I see one on the roads. Bikes aren't automobiles no matter how much we debate about it. They shouldn't be sharing the road with cars." Horses must really piss you off then.

HCIdivision17 12y ago
I don't know if you're joking, but horses aren't much fun to share a road with either. They're slower than the traffic and literally defecate anywhere. It's positively impressive how much urine can be left behind at a stop light.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  Road users come in many types. At one point cities were full of horse shit and now they are full of smog from vehicle fumes. No matter your preferred choice of ride, other people's choices may interfere with your day, but it is your choice if you let that get you angry. Personally, I think people who become dangerously enraged from having to deal with other forms of transport, should probably not be operating a motorised vehicle on the public roads in the first place.
  - HCIdivision17 12y ago
    To be sure, driving emotionally is a terribly dangerous thing to do. Personally I thought it was cool to see the horses, but the plant engineer in me fears animals on the road (no matter how big). And the motorcyclist in me fears the giant heap of poo to slip on. My attitude is whatever has the most momentum gets right of way; but again, I think forklifts will do that to a person. I doubt I could ever have the nerve to ride a bicycle in a city.
bane 12y ago
People around where I live are smart enough to keep their horses off of the roads and onto horse trails (or in a trailer when they're transporting them). And despite having hundreds of miles of dedicated bike trails I still get stuck behind some guy in full bike kit going 15 mph in the middle an undivided 2 lane 45 with double yellow at least once a week. Being a 15-20 minutes late because he couldn't be bothered to drive his bike to one of the bike trails to play 'Tour De France' is beyond irritating.
- heydenberk 12y ago
  Being in a full bike kit doesn't mean someone is playing Tour de France. For people (like me) whose quotidian bike commute is 10+ miles each, it is incredibly uncomfortable to wear street clothes, and it's very inconvenient to ride several 5+ miles out of the way to take an isolated path. Besides which, the impossibly small portion of infrastructure that doesn't allow car traffic often requires cyclists and pedestrians to mix on narrow paths that are poorly maintained.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  Hang on, you want the people who are currently cycling, to drive cars containing bicycles to where the dedicated lanes are, park these cars, then cycle on, because you think this will stop you being delayed in traffic as much? Are you this irrational in general, or is it just on this topic?
  - bane 12y ago
    I don't give a bag of squirrels how they get there, so long as they aren't putting themselves and me in danger or inconvenience. I'm not responsible for their decision to bike, how they get to the trails is not my concern. They've decided to take up this hobby not me. I shouldn't be penalized or made liable for their decision. It's not their right to impose upon me their safekeeping because they decided to take an unsafe and alternate form of transportation on road surfaces that are clearly not engineered or planned for bike usage. If they want to lobby for better bike trails and safer areas to bike. I'll be right out there holding the sign at the rally. I'll even give up extra income in the form of tax dollars to make it a reality. Because it's good for everybody. But biking on high speed roads that are unsafe for bikes isn't good for anybody.
    - Pxtl 12y ago
      It's not a hobby, it's a commute. And it's one with far fewer negative externalities and government subsidies than yours.
      - 12y ago
GFischer 12y ago
Well, today the entire traffic in a (supposedly) main thoroughfare in Montevideo in which I was driving was slowed to a crawl due to a horse-drawn carriage. Not to mention they're a huge source of accidents (including mortal ones), when the horse freaks out. Yes, they're a huge problem. http://www.bluechannel24.com/?p=23885 http://www.bluechannel24.com/?p=23885 http://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/2012/07/02/uruguay-crusade-to-forbid-carts-pulled-by-horses/ http://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/2012/07/02/uruguay-crusade-to-f...

HCIdivision17 12y ago

I don't know if you're joking, but horses aren't much fun to share a road with either. They're slower than the traffic and literally defecate anywhere. It's positively impressive how much urine can be left behind at a stop light.

lotsofmangos 12y ago
Road users come in many types. At one point cities were full of horse shit and now they are full of smog from vehicle fumes. No matter your preferred choice of ride, other people's choices may interfere with your day, but it is your choice if you let that get you angry. Personally, I think people who become dangerously enraged from having to deal with other forms of transport, should probably not be operating a motorised vehicle on the public roads in the first place.
- HCIdivision17 12y ago
  To be sure, driving emotionally is a terribly dangerous thing to do. Personally I thought it was cool to see the horses, but the plant engineer in me fears animals on the road (no matter how big). And the motorcyclist in me fears the giant heap of poo to slip on. My attitude is whatever has the most momentum gets right of way; but again, I think forklifts will do that to a person. I doubt I could ever have the nerve to ride a bicycle in a city.

bane 12y ago

People around where I live are smart enough to keep their horses off of the roads and onto horse trails (or in a trailer when they're transporting them). And despite having hundreds of miles of dedicated bike trails I still get stuck behind some guy in full bike kit going 15 mph in the middle an undivided 2 lane 45 with double yellow at least once a week. Being a 15-20 minutes late because he couldn't be bothered to drive his bike to one of the bike trails to play 'Tour De France' is beyond irritating.

heydenberk 12y ago
Being in a full bike kit doesn't mean someone is playing Tour de France. For people (like me) whose quotidian bike commute is 10+ miles each, it is incredibly uncomfortable to wear street clothes, and it's very inconvenient to ride several 5+ miles out of the way to take an isolated path. Besides which, the impossibly small portion of infrastructure that doesn't allow car traffic often requires cyclists and pedestrians to mix on narrow paths that are poorly maintained.
lotsofmangos 12y ago
Hang on, you want the people who are currently cycling, to drive cars containing bicycles to where the dedicated lanes are, park these cars, then cycle on, because you think this will stop you being delayed in traffic as much? Are you this irrational in general, or is it just on this topic?
- bane 12y ago
  I don't give a bag of squirrels how they get there, so long as they aren't putting themselves and me in danger or inconvenience. I'm not responsible for their decision to bike, how they get to the trails is not my concern. They've decided to take up this hobby not me. I shouldn't be penalized or made liable for their decision. It's not their right to impose upon me their safekeeping because they decided to take an unsafe and alternate form of transportation on road surfaces that are clearly not engineered or planned for bike usage. If they want to lobby for better bike trails and safer areas to bike. I'll be right out there holding the sign at the rally. I'll even give up extra income in the form of tax dollars to make it a reality. Because it's good for everybody. But biking on high speed roads that are unsafe for bikes isn't good for anybody.
  - Pxtl 12y ago
    It's not a hobby, it's a commute. And it's one with far fewer negative externalities and government subsidies than yours.
    - 12y ago

GFischer 12y ago

Well, today the entire traffic in a (supposedly) main thoroughfare in Montevideo in which I was driving was slowed to a crawl due to a horse-drawn carriage. Not to mention they're a huge source of accidents (including mortal ones), when the horse freaks out. Yes, they're a huge problem. http://www.bluechannel24.com/?p=23885 http://www.bluechannel24.com/?p=23885 http://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/2012/07/02/uruguay-crusade-to-forbid-carts-pulled-by-horses/ http://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/2012/07/02/uruguay-crusade-to-f...