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Too bad there is no longer a high end 4" model. The iPhone 5S won't support Apple Pay since it doesn't have NFC, and it is no longer available in 64 GB. I woul

by eisa01 12y ago

Too bad there is no longer a high end 4" model. The iPhone 5S won't support Apple Pay since it doesn't have NFC, and it is no longer available in 64 GB. I would have thought that Apple understood they have customers that actually prefer the 4" size, or else they wouldn't have had any sales the last years. Let's hope for a iPhone 6S mini next year.

currysausage 12y ago
> Let's hope for a iPhone 6S mini next year. Or an iPhone 6S Minus. Am I the only one who thinks "iPhone Plus" sounds oddly un-Apple-ish?
- Aloha 12y ago
  Macintosh Plus.
  - ajross 12y ago
    Not the archetype: Apple ][+
- redidas 12y ago
  No you are not. In fact Gruber's podcast yesterday talked about that very thing. They thought it might be called iPhone "pro" because anything else meaning bigger just doesn't sound like Apple. Overall this whole event was odd. It was more Apple reacting to trends rather than setting them...
  - delecti 12y ago
    Having a "pro" means the other option is "un-pro". Apple knows their iPhones are (to some extent) status symbols, and just like the 5c failed because it was perceived as the "cheap model", they had to come up with a value neutral modifier for "big". And given both 6 models are larger than all previous ones, they could hardly have the 6 and 6 mini.
- pcl 12y ago
  The first thing I thought of when I saw the naming was the Macintosh Plus. Maybe next year we'll see the iPhone ][!
  - kalleboo 12y ago
    I'm holding out for the iPhone SE/30
- whyenot 12y ago
  If anything, it's very Apple-ish. Apple II+, Apple III+, Macintosh Plus, Apple IIc Plus, Laserwriter Plus, ...
sid05 12y ago
The 4.7 in version bump is negligible for most ppl's palms. Even the majority of people with small hands still engulf the 4 in. size. I think it would be a moot point in a majority of cases unless you are really jones'ing for the pocket space and portability...
- eisa01 12y ago
  I will definitely try it just to be sure, but even the move from 3.5" to 4" started to stretch it when reaching for the top left corner of the screen for me. And then there's this ad from the original iPhone 5 release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk No iPhone 6 option at 4" is in direct contradiction to what they said before. It's a reason the Apple Watch is released in two different faces, people are different!
  - baddox 12y ago
    It's funny that they clearly demonstrate that you can't reach the top right corner of the phone with your thumb.
  - qubitcoder 12y ago
    Agreed that it’s rather awkward to tap the top left corner—unless you have large hands. Fortunately, more apps are now supporting the ‘swipe from left edge’ gesture to go back (e.g. Safari).
- mkozlows 12y ago
  Keep in mind that the iPhone 6 is a very large phone for a 4.7" device. Because of its huge bezels, it's actually taller than the 5" Nexus 5.
  - pkulak 12y ago
    Exactly, and my Nexus 5 is the largest I will go for a phone. It's my line in the sand. If I upgrade (and it may be a long while before I do), it'll be to a Sony Compact. The new Moto X was on my radar until they made it bigger.
LeoPanthera 12y ago
It may support Apple Pay if you pair it with an Watch.
- eridius 12y ago
  Interesting, I assumed it still required iPhone 6 because in the keynote they mentioned some addition to the secure enclave for this. But the website explicitly says Apple Pay is compatible with Apple Watch, and I quote: > Paired with iPhone 5, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, or iPhone 6 Plus. In-store purchases only.
  - JimmaDaRustla 12y ago
    It would require its own secure element within the watch. Interesting if that is the case.
wlesieutre 12y ago
They don't have to worry about losing any customers to Android though, because nobody makes a 4" phone anymore. Unless you're looking for some Chinese generic with a 320x240 screen and no reviews. I don't get this trend. I just want a phone that does calls/texts, maps, alarms, music, and occasionally browses the web. Why does it need to be enormous?
- asifjamil 12y ago
  I would venture the trend is because there are consumers (maybe a significant percentage) who, when comparing different options, simply make a choice based on "bigger is better".
  - baddox 12y ago
    Which means that their marketing, as good as it is, is no longer enough to overpower the "larger numbers are better" instinct of undecided buyers.
- skreech 12y ago
  The Sony Xperia Z1 Compact has a 4.3" screen, seems to be the smallest high-end brand name phone out.
  - wlesieutre 12y ago
    Guess I'm hanging on to my 3.5" 4S until it dies, and then probably trying to fix it for as long as I can :-\
JimmaDaRustla 12y ago
Even if the iPhone 5 or 5S had NFC, payments wouldn't be possible because there wouldn't be a secure element.

by eisa01 12y ago

currysausage 12y ago

> Let's hope for a iPhone 6S mini next year. Or an iPhone 6S Minus. Am I the only one who thinks "iPhone Plus" sounds oddly un-Apple-ish?

Aloha 12y ago
Macintosh Plus.
- ajross 12y ago
  Not the archetype: Apple ][+
redidas 12y ago
No you are not. In fact Gruber's podcast yesterday talked about that very thing. They thought it might be called iPhone "pro" because anything else meaning bigger just doesn't sound like Apple. Overall this whole event was odd. It was more Apple reacting to trends rather than setting them...
- delecti 12y ago
  Having a "pro" means the other option is "un-pro". Apple knows their iPhones are (to some extent) status symbols, and just like the 5c failed because it was perceived as the "cheap model", they had to come up with a value neutral modifier for "big". And given both 6 models are larger than all previous ones, they could hardly have the 6 and 6 mini.
pcl 12y ago
The first thing I thought of when I saw the naming was the Macintosh Plus. Maybe next year we'll see the iPhone ][!
- kalleboo 12y ago
  I'm holding out for the iPhone SE/30
whyenot 12y ago
If anything, it's very Apple-ish. Apple II+, Apple III+, Macintosh Plus, Apple IIc Plus, Laserwriter Plus, ...

sid05 12y ago

The 4.7 in version bump is negligible for most ppl's palms. Even the majority of people with small hands still engulf the 4 in. size. I think it would be a moot point in a majority of cases unless you are really jones'ing for the pocket space and portability...

eisa01 12y ago
I will definitely try it just to be sure, but even the move from 3.5" to 4" started to stretch it when reaching for the top left corner of the screen for me. And then there's this ad from the original iPhone 5 release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk No iPhone 6 option at 4" is in direct contradiction to what they said before. It's a reason the Apple Watch is released in two different faces, people are different!
- baddox 12y ago
  It's funny that they clearly demonstrate that you can't reach the top right corner of the phone with your thumb.
- qubitcoder 12y ago
  Agreed that it’s rather awkward to tap the top left corner—unless you have large hands. Fortunately, more apps are now supporting the ‘swipe from left edge’ gesture to go back (e.g. Safari).
mkozlows 12y ago
Keep in mind that the iPhone 6 is a very large phone for a 4.7" device. Because of its huge bezels, it's actually taller than the 5" Nexus 5.
- pkulak 12y ago
  Exactly, and my Nexus 5 is the largest I will go for a phone. It's my line in the sand. If I upgrade (and it may be a long while before I do), it'll be to a Sony Compact. The new Moto X was on my radar until they made it bigger.

LeoPanthera 12y ago

It may support Apple Pay if you pair it with an Watch.

eridius 12y ago
Interesting, I assumed it still required iPhone 6 because in the keynote they mentioned some addition to the secure enclave for this. But the website explicitly says Apple Pay is compatible with Apple Watch, and I quote: > Paired with iPhone 5, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, or iPhone 6 Plus. In-store purchases only.
- JimmaDaRustla 12y ago
  It would require its own secure element within the watch. Interesting if that is the case.

wlesieutre 12y ago

They don't have to worry about losing any customers to Android though, because nobody makes a 4" phone anymore. Unless you're looking for some Chinese generic with a 320x240 screen and no reviews. I don't get this trend. I just want a phone that does calls/texts, maps, alarms, music, and occasionally browses the web. Why does it need to be enormous?

asifjamil 12y ago
I would venture the trend is because there are consumers (maybe a significant percentage) who, when comparing different options, simply make a choice based on "bigger is better".
- baddox 12y ago
  Which means that their marketing, as good as it is, is no longer enough to overpower the "larger numbers are better" instinct of undecided buyers.
skreech 12y ago
The Sony Xperia Z1 Compact has a 4.3" screen, seems to be the smallest high-end brand name phone out.
- wlesieutre 12y ago
  Guess I'm hanging on to my 3.5" 4S until it dies, and then probably trying to fix it for as long as I can :-\

JimmaDaRustla 12y ago

Even if the iPhone 5 or 5S had NFC, payments wouldn't be possible because there wouldn't be a secure element.