So, I'm definitely not confused :) I do appreciate it's very common in what I'd call pseudo-formal speech, mostly used when trying to impress someone one perce

So, I'm definitely not confused :) I do appreciate it's very common in what I'd call pseudo-formal speech, mostly used when trying to impress someone one perceives to be of higher social station. Estate agents do it a lot when talking to clients. And so it does have the "well, lots of people do it" support. However, if you go back to the roots (Latin), "myself" is specifically the reflexive form of the first person. When the first person is the object or the dative, it is "me/to me". So to have correct agreement with the verb, your example should end in "and me". While your example is easy enough to parse, it doesn't actually follow the rules - though maybe the common practice. And if you rearrange the two object nouns (i.e. back to the original) the sentence loses clarity. Using "me" never loses clarity, and the ordering of object nouns shouldn't matter beyond providing emphasis. Basically, that example is ok in Perl, but not in Java ;) And ultimately, using the reflexive form incorrectly never makes a sentence clearer, and it's longer to write and say. Anyway, this is so far off the OP's topic, which is actually much more important & interesting, I do apologise to him/her.