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Likely due to the fact that as of yet, no one has found a particularly good way of monetizing torrents without alienating downloaders. Monetization is a necessi

by m4xm4n 12y ago

Likely due to the fact that as of yet, no one has found a particularly good way of monetizing torrents without alienating downloaders. Monetization is a necessity for industry adoption, so it's hard to tie the future of television to something like torrenting, unless there's a way for content creators & licensors to get paid.

dublinben 12y ago
Broadcast television has been given away for free since it's inception, and monetized with advertisements. I don't see why officially-sanctioned torrents couldn't do the same. Make them high quality, and backed by fast seedboxes, and you'll outcompete the crappy scene releases that trickle down to public trackers.
- VLM 12y ago
  "Make them high quality, and backed by fast seedboxes," Another option: directors cut type content. So you get 2 minutes extra content of dubious quality, but there's a 10 second diet coke ad at the start. Well, you could try to find a torrent of the extra content without the ad, but its got slower seeds, so you're better off with the diet coke ad...
  - drdaeman 12y ago
    > but its got slower seeds I'm not sure this would be true. This may work for rarer content, but certainly wouldn't work for hot torrents. A fast webseeds CDN or whole datacenter of seedboxes is still on par with a large community-only swarm - that is, except for minor issues (possibly slower start) they both can well saturate one's downstream channel. That is, unless one wants the download to start at full-speed right at the release second and not an hour or two later when swarm gets enough seeds. But I'm not sure most users care whenever their favorite series get an update at, say, 18:00 or 20:00.
- glomph 12y ago
  People would just release versions with the adverts cut. What do you think goes on with HDTV releases at the moment?
  - Zigurd 12y ago
    There are torrents of TV shows with the ads cut. That hasn't made a dent in broadcast TV.
SlashmanX 12y ago
Blocktech are trying to do something like this with MovieCoin[1]. They contacted PopcornTime about it but I'm not sure how far their technology is at the moment [1] https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/427/moviecoin-worldwide-secure-distro-of-movies-payment-system-to-connect-contentcreators-audiences https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/427/moviecoin-worldwid...

by m4xm4n 12y ago

dublinben 12y ago

Broadcast television has been given away for free since it's inception, and monetized with advertisements. I don't see why officially-sanctioned torrents couldn't do the same. Make them high quality, and backed by fast seedboxes, and you'll outcompete the crappy scene releases that trickle down to public trackers.

VLM 12y ago
"Make them high quality, and backed by fast seedboxes," Another option: directors cut type content. So you get 2 minutes extra content of dubious quality, but there's a 10 second diet coke ad at the start. Well, you could try to find a torrent of the extra content without the ad, but its got slower seeds, so you're better off with the diet coke ad...
- drdaeman 12y ago
  > but its got slower seeds I'm not sure this would be true. This may work for rarer content, but certainly wouldn't work for hot torrents. A fast webseeds CDN or whole datacenter of seedboxes is still on par with a large community-only swarm - that is, except for minor issues (possibly slower start) they both can well saturate one's downstream channel. That is, unless one wants the download to start at full-speed right at the release second and not an hour or two later when swarm gets enough seeds. But I'm not sure most users care whenever their favorite series get an update at, say, 18:00 or 20:00.
glomph 12y ago
People would just release versions with the adverts cut. What do you think goes on with HDTV releases at the moment?
- Zigurd 12y ago
  There are torrents of TV shows with the ads cut. That hasn't made a dent in broadcast TV.

SlashmanX 12y ago

Blocktech are trying to do something like this with MovieCoin[1]. They contacted PopcornTime about it but I'm not sure how far their technology is at the moment [1] https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/427/moviecoin-worldwide-secure-distro-of-movies-payment-system-to-connect-contentcreators-audiences https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/427/moviecoin-worldwid...