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The co-founder of reddit apparently also subscribes to the guilty victim ideology. It's not the job of reddit to understand the plight of the victims of any sto

The co-founder of reddit apparently also subscribes to the guilty victim ideology. It's not the job of reddit to understand the plight of the victims of any stolen content - it's their fault, after all... From parent's linked thread: "Anytime they take an image and put it in a digital format—whether it’s an email to one person, whether it’s in a tweet, whether it’s on Facebook, whether it’s an MMS—they should assume that it is now public content. They should assume it is everywhere. And that’s the warning that parents need to be giving their kids, and that’s the useful thing CNN could have reported on, instead of making up a bunch of jibber-jabber about reddit." Edit: formatting.

thaumaturgy 12y ago
Hold up. I've seen this sentiment a few times, and I think it's unfair to label it "victim blaming" and dismiss it. There are two different reactions at work here. One is that people's photos shouldn't be stolen and re-distributed, and the other is that once you upload a photo to an online service, you shouldn't assume it's still private. Both can be true at the same time. The first is an idealistic argument. In an ideal world, you could trust every online service and every person to do the right thing; you could flash a bunch of money around in a bad part of a foreign place and not get mugged; you could be a woman and wear revealing clothing without being subject to abuse. These are noble ideals. The second is a pragmatic argument. In the world in which we currently live, as a practical matter you don't want to trust online services and other people, and you should be careful about flashing money around in seedy unfamiliar places, and women get cat-called far too often. They're two different statements, and we shouldn't assume that just because somebody argues from one means that they don't believe in the other.

thaumaturgy 12y ago

Hold up. I've seen this sentiment a few times, and I think it's unfair to label it "victim blaming" and dismiss it. There are two different reactions at work here. One is that people's photos shouldn't be stolen and re-distributed, and the other is that once you upload a photo to an online service, you shouldn't assume it's still private. Both can be true at the same time. The first is an idealistic argument. In an ideal world, you could trust every online service and every person to do the right thing; you could flash a bunch of money around in a bad part of a foreign place and not get mugged; you could be a woman and wear revealing clothing without being subject to abuse. These are noble ideals. The second is a pragmatic argument. In the world in which we currently live, as a practical matter you don't want to trust online services and other people, and you should be careful about flashing money around in seedy unfamiliar places, and women get cat-called far too often. They're two different statements, and we shouldn't assume that just because somebody argues from one means that they don't believe in the other.