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Yep, pure comedy. Here are the facts; alcohol is among the largest preventable causes of deaths, is connected to half of all violent crimes and about a third of

Yep, pure comedy. Here are the facts; alcohol is among the largest preventable causes of deaths, is connected to half of all violent crimes and about a third of car related deaths. http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impai...

spikels 12y ago
The problem with those "connected" results is that alcohol is very popular so a large fraction of any group has consummed alcohol recently. This is yet another example of the divergence of causation and correlation. If it is actually responsible for preventable deaths, why are they not being prevented? Because they are probably very, very hard to actually prevent. Even prohibition did little to reduce death rates and we already arrest 1.5 million people in the US each year for driving under the influence. What would work? I suggest the prevention of these deaths will have little to do with alcohol and more to do with healthcare and perhaps automobile design.
- readerrrr 12y ago
  If it is actually responsible for preventable deaths, why are they not being prevented? Because alcohol is the cause. I don't know what are you trying to say.
  - spikels 12y ago
    Sorry you don't understand - let me see if I can make it simpler for you. Your alias (readerrr) gives me some pause that this will be successful. :) If something is preventable that means it can be prevented. Right? So why is it not be prevented? Understand? By this flawed logic aren't all murders and suicides also preventable? This "preventable" label is bullshit. I suggest that the vast majority these "alcohol related deaths" cannot be prevented thought additional controls on alcohol. We tried prohibition - didn't help. We arrest 1.5 million people every year - still these death persist. Do you have some suggestions? I gave a few above.
- DanBC 12y ago
  Compare France and UK. France banned alcohol advertising; introduced minimum pricing and introduced stricter drink drive limits. They've seen reductions in deaths from cirrhosis. England does not have minimum pricing[1]; does have alcohol advertising, and has seen significant increases in deaths from cirrhosis. [1] this was a shoddy U-Turn, where evidence based choice was rejected based on lies pushed by the alcohol industry. Minimum unit pricing of 50 pence per unit would affect very few drinks. (One unit of alcohol is 10 ml of alcohol, so you multiply the amount of drink by the ABV then divide by 1000. 175 ml * 13.5 / 1000 is about 2.4 units.)
aaron695 12y ago
This it mostly OT, which is the point. The author is talking about health benefits. My exposure to violent crime and drink driving (That I aren't already exposed too) is easy to manage if I was to start drinking.

spikels 12y ago

The problem with those "connected" results is that alcohol is very popular so a large fraction of any group has consummed alcohol recently. This is yet another example of the divergence of causation and correlation. If it is actually responsible for preventable deaths, why are they not being prevented? Because they are probably very, very hard to actually prevent. Even prohibition did little to reduce death rates and we already arrest 1.5 million people in the US each year for driving under the influence. What would work? I suggest the prevention of these deaths will have little to do with alcohol and more to do with healthcare and perhaps automobile design.

readerrrr 12y ago
If it is actually responsible for preventable deaths, why are they not being prevented? Because alcohol is the cause. I don't know what are you trying to say.
- spikels 12y ago
  Sorry you don't understand - let me see if I can make it simpler for you. Your alias (readerrr) gives me some pause that this will be successful. :) If something is preventable that means it can be prevented. Right? So why is it not be prevented? Understand? By this flawed logic aren't all murders and suicides also preventable? This "preventable" label is bullshit. I suggest that the vast majority these "alcohol related deaths" cannot be prevented thought additional controls on alcohol. We tried prohibition - didn't help. We arrest 1.5 million people every year - still these death persist. Do you have some suggestions? I gave a few above.
DanBC 12y ago
Compare France and UK. France banned alcohol advertising; introduced minimum pricing and introduced stricter drink drive limits. They've seen reductions in deaths from cirrhosis. England does not have minimum pricing[1]; does have alcohol advertising, and has seen significant increases in deaths from cirrhosis. [1] this was a shoddy U-Turn, where evidence based choice was rejected based on lies pushed by the alcohol industry. Minimum unit pricing of 50 pence per unit would affect very few drinks. (One unit of alcohol is 10 ml of alcohol, so you multiply the amount of drink by the ABV then divide by 1000. 175 ml * 13.5 / 1000 is about 2.4 units.)

aaron695 12y ago

This it mostly OT, which is the point. The author is talking about health benefits. My exposure to violent crime and drink driving (That I aren't already exposed too) is easy to manage if I was to start drinking.