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The state is not just suing for breach of contract to recover some money here -- the Attorney General is seeking a permanent ban on Oracle selling anything to t

by YokoZar 12y ago

The state is not just suing for breach of contract to recover some money here -- the Attorney General is seeking a permanent ban on Oracle selling anything to the state. "On page 119: (c) A permanent injunction prohibiting Oracle from marketing to or entering into a contract with any public corporation of or agency of the State of Oregon from the date of judgment forward. "

Mister_Snuggles 12y ago
Wow. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a "public corporation of or agency of the State of Oregon" that currently uses some piece of Oracle software. I'm sure current contracts wouldn't be affected, but what about when they come up for renewal?
- jrapdx3 12y ago
  You could well be correct, but in that case it's an opportunity to take a hard look at how adequately the "system" used by that agency is actually working, and possibly make revisions where indicated or necessary. Trust me, I know there are Oregon state agencies that have suboptimal software systems. Even though Oregon is a low population state, it still runs a large number of systems, and among them are others that are bound to be marginal. It's silly to be idealistic, nonetheless it's denying the obvious to miss the chance to "do it right", to develop and apply the rigorous process alluded to in several comments above. A plan for the long haul, integrating and unifying systems, and reducing "reinvention of wheels" where appropriate, and organizing truly knowledgeable oversight of the state's data management would go a long way to prevent recurrence of recent mistakes, have systems that work better, and cost the public less. No one has to tell me it isn't going to happen, Oregon is where I live, and logic doesn't stop me from wishing that it would.
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davidgerard 12y ago
You know, quite a lot of people running Oracle are dreaming of replacing it with Postgres. (At the day job, we're finally proceeding with this next year. I'm sure there will be many a tale to tell!)

by YokoZar 12y ago

Mister_Snuggles 12y ago

Wow. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a "public corporation of or agency of the State of Oregon" that currently uses some piece of Oracle software. I'm sure current contracts wouldn't be affected, but what about when they come up for renewal?

jrapdx3 12y ago
You could well be correct, but in that case it's an opportunity to take a hard look at how adequately the "system" used by that agency is actually working, and possibly make revisions where indicated or necessary. Trust me, I know there are Oregon state agencies that have suboptimal software systems. Even though Oregon is a low population state, it still runs a large number of systems, and among them are others that are bound to be marginal. It's silly to be idealistic, nonetheless it's denying the obvious to miss the chance to "do it right", to develop and apply the rigorous process alluded to in several comments above. A plan for the long haul, integrating and unifying systems, and reducing "reinvention of wheels" where appropriate, and organizing truly knowledgeable oversight of the state's data management would go a long way to prevent recurrence of recent mistakes, have systems that work better, and cost the public less. No one has to tell me it isn't going to happen, Oregon is where I live, and logic doesn't stop me from wishing that it would.

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davidgerard 12y ago

You know, quite a lot of people running Oracle are dreaming of replacing it with Postgres. (At the day job, we're finally proceeding with this next year. I'm sure there will be many a tale to tell!)