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Is it "Common Markdown" or "Standard Markdown"?

by talles 12y ago

talles 12y ago
Nevermind: http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common-markdown/ http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common...
- x0x0 12y ago
  wow, gruber is more of an ass than I thought. His modus operandi is blow off private communications and have a public tantrum We've been working on the Standard Markdown project for about two years now. As we got closer to being ready for public feedback, we emailed John Gruber, the original creator of Markdown, two weeks ago (On August 19th, to be precise) with a link to the Standard Markdown spec, asking him for his feedback. Since John MacFarlane was the primary author of most of the work, we suggested that he be the one to reach out. We then waited two weeks for a response. [...] and again: Starting with the name. In his email John graciously indicated that he would "probably" approve a name like "Strict Markdown" or "Pedantic Markdown". Given the very public earlier miscommunication about naming, that consideration is appreciated. We replied with the following suggestions: Compatible Markdown Regular Markdown Community Markdown Common Markdown Uniform Markdown Vanilla Markdown We haven't heard back after replying last night, and I'm not sure we ever will,
  - mikestew 12y ago
    Gruber's often an insufferable Apple mouthpiece who thinks way too highly of himself, and has been for the last ten years that I've paid attention. That doesn't keep me from reading everything in the RSS feed, though. Hell, I've even spent considerable sums of money to advertise on his podcast. But this exchange doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me is how Marco was happy to be one of Gruber's flying monkeys on Twitter. Maybe Marco has an interest in the fight that is unknown to me, dunno. Anyway, I don't care one way or the other. If forced to care, I'd even side with Gruber on the principles. But don't be shocked that some parties handled this in a less than graceful manner.
    - deong 12y ago
      No, he's just very particular (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+gruber+%22moto+270%22 https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+gruber+%22moto+270...) about people respecting other people's names for their work. Stay tuned though. My sources tell me he's going do a really clever thing with a dollar sign in the middle of "Microsoft" next week.
      - philoushka 12y ago
        Gruber: steadfast supporter of naming rights. Remember when he objected strongly when Apple took the name Swift from the Swift programming language? http://swift-lang.org/main/ http://swift-lang.org/main/
      - rtpg 12y ago
        what's the story behind "Moto 270"?
        deong 12y ago
        Motorola makes a watch, the Moto 360, the name being an obvious hat tip to being round. There's a bit of black plastic along the bottom though, so the actual screen takes up a bit less than the full area of the circle. And Gruber certainly seems to think he's very clever in consistently calling it the "Moto 270". Maybe he has a good argument that they can't call their thing Markdown, but certainly if he starts whinging that they aren't properly capitalizing his trademark, then I think he's behaving in a hypocritical fashion when he quite clearly takes other people's trademarks so casually. Also, I think it's just as childish as seeing Micro$oft back in the day, but I guess that's a matter of taste.
        rtpg 12y ago
        Wow, I really don't understand how this man has such a following. Everything I hear about him is so petty (not to mention that everything about his blog is written to somehow conclude that Apple is some sort of god, even when the source is completely the opposite)

Is it "Common Markdown" or "Standard Markdown"?

by talles 12y ago

Is it "Common Markdown" or "Standard Markdown"?

Nevermind: http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common-markdown/ http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common...

x0x0 12y ago
wow, gruber is more of an ass than I thought. His modus operandi is blow off private communications and have a public tantrum We've been working on the Standard Markdown project for about two years now. As we got closer to being ready for public feedback, we emailed John Gruber, the original creator of Markdown, two weeks ago (On August 19th, to be precise) with a link to the Standard Markdown spec, asking him for his feedback. Since John MacFarlane was the primary author of most of the work, we suggested that he be the one to reach out. We then waited two weeks for a response. [...] and again: Starting with the name. In his email John graciously indicated that he would "probably" approve a name like "Strict Markdown" or "Pedantic Markdown". Given the very public earlier miscommunication about naming, that consideration is appreciated. We replied with the following suggestions: Compatible Markdown Regular Markdown Community Markdown Common Markdown Uniform Markdown Vanilla Markdown We haven't heard back after replying last night, and I'm not sure we ever will,
- mikestew 12y ago
  Gruber's often an insufferable Apple mouthpiece who thinks way too highly of himself, and has been for the last ten years that I've paid attention. That doesn't keep me from reading everything in the RSS feed, though. Hell, I've even spent considerable sums of money to advertise on his podcast. But this exchange doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me is how Marco was happy to be one of Gruber's flying monkeys on Twitter. Maybe Marco has an interest in the fight that is unknown to me, dunno. Anyway, I don't care one way or the other. If forced to care, I'd even side with Gruber on the principles. But don't be shocked that some parties handled this in a less than graceful manner.
  - deong 12y ago
    No, he's just very particular (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+gruber+%22moto+270%22 https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=john+gruber+%22moto+270...) about people respecting other people's names for their work. Stay tuned though. My sources tell me he's going do a really clever thing with a dollar sign in the middle of "Microsoft" next week.
    - philoushka 12y ago
      Gruber: steadfast supporter of naming rights. Remember when he objected strongly when Apple took the name Swift from the Swift programming language? http://swift-lang.org/main/ http://swift-lang.org/main/
    - rtpg 12y ago
      what's the story behind "Moto 270"?
      - deong 12y ago
        Motorola makes a watch, the Moto 360, the name being an obvious hat tip to being round. There's a bit of black plastic along the bottom though, so the actual screen takes up a bit less than the full area of the circle. And Gruber certainly seems to think he's very clever in consistently calling it the "Moto 270". Maybe he has a good argument that they can't call their thing Markdown, but certainly if he starts whinging that they aren't properly capitalizing his trademark, then I think he's behaving in a hypocritical fashion when he quite clearly takes other people's trademarks so casually. Also, I think it's just as childish as seeing Micro$oft back in the day, but I guess that's a matter of taste.
        rtpg 12y ago
        Wow, I really don't understand how this man has such a following. Everything I hear about him is so petty (not to mention that everything about his blog is written to somehow conclude that Apple is some sort of god, even when the source is completely the opposite)