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Putting cm-t's words nicely, the Gentoo Handbook is fantastic! I first built a Gentoo install maybe around 2007, and had no problems up until the Grub install

Putting cm-t's words nicely, the Gentoo Handbook is fantastic! I first built a Gentoo install maybe around 2007, and had no problems up until the Grub install (however, I had done kernel compilations before). With Gentoo, the two hardest problems you arrive at _during installation_ are kernel configuration, and grub configuration. The former has now been solved with having great prebuilt kernels, or even just a way to use their configs. The latter may still be an issue, but once you wrap your head around it you'll be fine. I haven't done a new install in a couple years - it just keeps running as-is, so I don't know about the state of affairs, but I would hardly doubt they got worse! I'm sure it's even easier than before. A weekend is certainly enough time to build a base Gentoo system, and get enough packages installed to be able to use it for daily work. If you have any problems I would be happy to help someone with a *ntoo setup! My email is in my profile if you run into any issues :)

crististm 12y ago
I'd like to know how you deal with qt version bumps. It drives me crazy to see that every time kde is upgraded the qt dependencies are bumped with previous versions removed. I don't remember last time I did an emerge world because of this. It's insane.
taway0987 12y ago
Regarding grub, 2.x is torture. All hdd's with even traces of its code should be collected and shot to the sun to make sure noone would ever recreate something as painful to use as grub2. Even more, samples of their configs should be posted on the walls of every CS class, together with charges of crimes against humanity against all developers responsible for that abomination - as a warning to anyone thinking of going their road. Most systems these days have EFI bioses, just create a 512M EFI partition[1] and put your kernel(s)(with a set kernel-command line) to EFI/Boot(bootx64.efi is usually the default being loaded). You don't need a bootloader at all(+you'll get a few s off of your boot time too). Many bioses let you choose a kernel at boot time, so you don't even have to play with efibootmgr[2] if running multiple kernels/OS's. It gets more tricky if you want LVM root fe(which I'd recommend) - in that case genkernel[3] may make your life a lot easier, but even here you don't require a boot loader. If you do want a nice(er) boot menu, just copy refind[4] to your EFI partition, configuration takes seconds and you can tune it very - VERY - easily Also, folks @ #gentoo are very helpful, feel free to give them a visit if you are stuck. And the last thing I want to add - you don't have to compile your binaries on your nb/slow hw, just setup a binhost[5] and compile your tailored packages on your beefy PC/server@work - you can then share them with your devices via http for example Ok, last one - if you like elementary os, you can get the same look&feel running on gentoo, although it may take some hacks at this stage [1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel [2] http://linux.die.net/man/8/efibootmgr http://linux.die.net/man/8/efibootmgr [3] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Genkernel http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Genkernel [4] http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ [5] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide ..a buildroot micro-system running other distributions as overlays is also a nice time-waster and only a step away from gentoo(+ with lxc/docker there is a lot of long-hanging fruit to collect)

crististm 12y ago

I'd like to know how you deal with qt version bumps. It drives me crazy to see that every time kde is upgraded the qt dependencies are bumped with previous versions removed. I don't remember last time I did an emerge world because of this. It's insane.

taway0987 12y ago

Regarding grub, 2.x is torture. All hdd's with even traces of its code should be collected and shot to the sun to make sure noone would ever recreate something as painful to use as grub2. Even more, samples of their configs should be posted on the walls of every CS class, together with charges of crimes against humanity against all developers responsible for that abomination - as a warning to anyone thinking of going their road. Most systems these days have EFI bioses, just create a 512M EFI partition[1] and put your kernel(s)(with a set kernel-command line) to EFI/Boot(bootx64.efi is usually the default being loaded). You don't need a bootloader at all(+you'll get a few s off of your boot time too). Many bioses let you choose a kernel at boot time, so you don't even have to play with efibootmgr[2] if running multiple kernels/OS's. It gets more tricky if you want LVM root fe(which I'd recommend) - in that case genkernel[3] may make your life a lot easier, but even here you don't require a boot loader. If you do want a nice(er) boot menu, just copy refind[4] to your EFI partition, configuration takes seconds and you can tune it very - VERY - easily Also, folks @ #gentoo are very helpful, feel free to give them a visit if you are stuck. And the last thing I want to add - you don't have to compile your binaries on your nb/slow hw, just setup a binhost[5] and compile your tailored packages on your beefy PC/server@work - you can then share them with your devices via http for example Ok, last one - if you like elementary os, you can get the same look&feel running on gentoo, although it may take some hacks at this stage [1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/EFI_stub_kernel [2] http://linux.die.net/man/8/efibootmgr http://linux.die.net/man/8/efibootmgr [3] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Genkernel http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Genkernel [4] http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ [5] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide ..a buildroot micro-system running other distributions as overlays is also a nice time-waster and only a step away from gentoo(+ with lxc/docker there is a lot of long-hanging fruit to collect)