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Dive Into Python 3 now finished and downloadable as HTML and PDF

121 points by srid 17y ago

forsaken 17y ago
Thanks Mark!
- juvenn 17y ago
  I followed a lot of diveinto series by Mark, so, Thank you!
pmorici 17y ago
The footnote is funny, """ This site is optimized for Lynx just because fuck you. I’m told it also looks good in graphical browsers. """
- juvenn 17y ago
  Yeh, it confused me too. One day, I asked diveintomark on twitter: Why there's an unpleasant 'fuck you'? and get the reply from Mark: http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/1914075749 http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/1914075749 Now I'm just wondering, has Mark been greatly annoyed by the Internet Censorship?
  - jibiki 17y ago
    That's a really funny reply. I suggest Mark try "^__^ fuck you ^__^"
    - juvenn 17y ago
      Oh, you ruined all fun
pizza 17y ago
Yes! Now, only the small matter that more than 9/10 modules will break under python 3, but hey, at least now we have a finished Dive Into Python 3!
- tsally 17y ago
  Nothing is stopping you from using Python 2.x. Writing a new version of a language is never intended to be backwards compatible. Indeed, breaking backwards compatibility is essentially a perquisite because a new version is the opportunity to add all the useful features that couldn't be added before.
  - andreyf 17y ago
    That doesn't seem completely true. I could imagine default language syntax changing from one version to another, but still being modifiable via "from __future__ import ..." or "from __past__ import ...", respectively. Unless the bytecodes of the VM are incompatible (which is possible), there isn't any reason py26 code can't talk to py30 code...
- mapleoin 17y ago
  So go port them!
- njharman 17y ago
  Two types: 1) People worth paying attention to. 2) Whiny bitches.
- pizza 17y ago
  I wasn't being sarcastic... I actually like this
yop 17y ago
"Also available in dead trees" for the print edition. Can't stop laughing.
- mahmud 17y ago
  "dead trees", that's a very common expression; why would you find it funny?
  - yop 17y ago
    Because I hadn't heard/read it before.
    - mahmud 17y ago
      you, my friend, are a bleeding-edge internet newb :-P http://catb.org/jargon/html/D/dead-tree-version.html http://catb.org/jargon/html/D/dead-tree-version.html http://catb.org/jargon/html/index.html http://catb.org/jargon/html/index.html <-- start here and spend a weekend.
chasingsparks 17y ago
Hacker News continues to keep me informed. I was just looking two or three weeks ago for a refresher course on Python and found everything outdated. Stellar.
timwiseman 17y ago
Über-geeks can also clone the Mercurial repository: you@localhost:~$ hg clone http://hg.diveintopython3.org/ http://hg.diveintopython3.org/ diveintopython3 I know I'm a DBA, but I think this is the first time I've qualified as an Uber-geek.
ludwig 17y ago
Why is the section "What's New in Python 3" the last section?

121 points by srid 17y ago

forsaken 17y ago

Thanks Mark!

juvenn 17y ago
I followed a lot of diveinto series by Mark, so, Thank you!

pmorici 17y ago

The footnote is funny, """ This site is optimized for Lynx just because fuck you. I’m told it also looks good in graphical browsers. """

juvenn 17y ago
Yeh, it confused me too. One day, I asked diveintomark on twitter: Why there's an unpleasant 'fuck you'? and get the reply from Mark: http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/1914075749 http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/1914075749 Now I'm just wondering, has Mark been greatly annoyed by the Internet Censorship?
- jibiki 17y ago
  That's a really funny reply. I suggest Mark try "^__^ fuck you ^__^"
  - juvenn 17y ago
    Oh, you ruined all fun

pizza 17y ago

Yes! Now, only the small matter that more than 9/10 modules will break under python 3, but hey, at least now we have a finished Dive Into Python 3!

tsally 17y ago
Nothing is stopping you from using Python 2.x. Writing a new version of a language is never intended to be backwards compatible. Indeed, breaking backwards compatibility is essentially a perquisite because a new version is the opportunity to add all the useful features that couldn't be added before.
- andreyf 17y ago
  That doesn't seem completely true. I could imagine default language syntax changing from one version to another, but still being modifiable via "from __future__ import ..." or "from __past__ import ...", respectively. Unless the bytecodes of the VM are incompatible (which is possible), there isn't any reason py26 code can't talk to py30 code...
mapleoin 17y ago
So go port them!
njharman 17y ago
Two types: 1) People worth paying attention to. 2) Whiny bitches.
pizza 17y ago
I wasn't being sarcastic... I actually like this

yop 17y ago

"Also available in dead trees" for the print edition. Can't stop laughing.

mahmud 17y ago
"dead trees", that's a very common expression; why would you find it funny?
- yop 17y ago
  Because I hadn't heard/read it before.
  - mahmud 17y ago
    you, my friend, are a bleeding-edge internet newb :-P http://catb.org/jargon/html/D/dead-tree-version.html http://catb.org/jargon/html/D/dead-tree-version.html http://catb.org/jargon/html/index.html http://catb.org/jargon/html/index.html <-- start here and spend a weekend.

chasingsparks 17y ago

Hacker News continues to keep me informed. I was just looking two or three weeks ago for a refresher course on Python and found everything outdated. Stellar.

timwiseman 17y ago

Über-geeks can also clone the Mercurial repository: you@localhost:~$ hg clone http://hg.diveintopython3.org/ http://hg.diveintopython3.org/ diveintopython3 I know I'm a DBA, but I think this is the first time I've qualified as an Uber-geek.

ludwig 17y ago

Why is the section "What's New in Python 3" the last section?