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Fair enough. At least you acknowledge that Google no longer stands for these things.

• DannyBee 12y ago
  I have never claimed Google no longer stands for these things. I just don't believe Google is on the front lines anymore, because people (like you) damn them either way.
  • tptacek 12y ago
    Their security teams do important work, and largely it seems because they profoundly give a shit about these issues. They're still the front line technically.
    • gress 12y ago
      On security, yes. On "free speech, etc.", no.
  • gress 12y ago
    Are you seriously claiming that Google is no longer on the front lines of defending free speech because people like me damn them either way?