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FWIW - I’ve always thought these guys were close to something (but not there yet) - https://gingkoapp.com/p/future-of-text https://gingkoapp.com/p/future-of-tex

by ckluis 12y ago

FWIW - I’ve always thought these guys were close to something (but not there yet) - https://gingkoapp.com/p/future-of-text https://gingkoapp.com/p/future-of-text - the idea of a quick dive-down/up through knowledge with potentially tagging/linking thrown in would seem pretty stellar from a knowledge management system.

walterbell 12y ago
A bit like the visions of Nelson & Engelbart, http://thoughtvectors.net/ http://thoughtvectors.net/ Inkling is working on related challenges with ebook authoring, https://www.inkling.com/blog/2014/06/problem-of-structured-authoring/ https://www.inkling.com/blog/2014/06/problem-of-structured-a... . InfinitePDF on iOS allows non-linear navigation paths to be overlaid on an existing PDF, http://www.148apps.com/reviews/infinite-pdf-review/ http://www.148apps.com/reviews/infinite-pdf-review/ The challenge for all of these solutions is migration/import/rewrite of existing content.
SupremumLimit 12y ago
Thanks for pointing out Gingko - it looks like it could have the right mix of features that I miss in Workflowy, i.e. going beyond lists/outlines and having richer content in leaf nodes. Excited to try it out!
- Ramonal 12y ago
  On daily work for outlines, I use Workflowy, which is easy to edit; and on systematize knowledge or stuff, I use Weavi, which is a decent product.
  - SupremumLimit 12y ago
    Thanks for the pointer. Tried it out - it's similar to Gingko but seems much less polished, and I couldn't find the keyboard shortcuts! I guess the advantage is that it's free. I really hope this kind of text manipulation will get developed further.
    - ckluis 12y ago
      Agreed that this form of data capture seems powerful.
lorddoig 12y ago
I don't want to say this is a rip-off, but it does share a remarkable resemblance to Ted Nelson's pre-Berners-Lee hypertext Project Xanadu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu). Here's a recent screenshot http://www.open-hypervideo.org/img/xanadu.jpg http://www.open-hypervideo.org/img/xanadu.jpg. That man has been trying to get traction on it since 1960. He's quite remarkable. Actually, reading their blurb is like reading his work from then. If you know the story of Nelson and Xanadu, the lack of credit to him is a little unforgivable.

by ckluis 12y ago

walterbell 12y ago

A bit like the visions of Nelson & Engelbart, http://thoughtvectors.net/ http://thoughtvectors.net/ Inkling is working on related challenges with ebook authoring, https://www.inkling.com/blog/2014/06/problem-of-structured-authoring/ https://www.inkling.com/blog/2014/06/problem-of-structured-a... . InfinitePDF on iOS allows non-linear navigation paths to be overlaid on an existing PDF, http://www.148apps.com/reviews/infinite-pdf-review/ http://www.148apps.com/reviews/infinite-pdf-review/ The challenge for all of these solutions is migration/import/rewrite of existing content.

SupremumLimit 12y ago

Thanks for pointing out Gingko - it looks like it could have the right mix of features that I miss in Workflowy, i.e. going beyond lists/outlines and having richer content in leaf nodes. Excited to try it out!

Ramonal 12y ago
On daily work for outlines, I use Workflowy, which is easy to edit; and on systematize knowledge or stuff, I use Weavi, which is a decent product.
- SupremumLimit 12y ago
  Thanks for the pointer. Tried it out - it's similar to Gingko but seems much less polished, and I couldn't find the keyboard shortcuts! I guess the advantage is that it's free. I really hope this kind of text manipulation will get developed further.
  - ckluis 12y ago
    Agreed that this form of data capture seems powerful.

lorddoig 12y ago

I don't want to say this is a rip-off, but it does share a remarkable resemblance to Ted Nelson's pre-Berners-Lee hypertext Project Xanadu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu). Here's a recent screenshot http://www.open-hypervideo.org/img/xanadu.jpg http://www.open-hypervideo.org/img/xanadu.jpg. That man has been trying to get traction on it since 1960. He's quite remarkable. Actually, reading their blurb is like reading his work from then. If you know the story of Nelson and Xanadu, the lack of credit to him is a little unforgivable.