"Certainly you don't need to travel that long out of SF to be able to get nice leafy areas." You don't. Under an hour on bicycle or bus will do it. SF also l

"Certainly you don't need to travel that long out of SF to be able to get nice leafy areas." You don't. Under an hour on bicycle or bus will do it. SF also leads the nation in greenspaces, park area per capita, and has the largest urban park in the US, if not the world. Get out of SOMA once in a while, people. EDIT: BTW, this is an example of why SFians are terrified of the onslaught of tech folks. People new to SF tend to have a very narrow view of things, taking over a year to really get even a basic feel for the city, while typically financially supporting the sort of businesses that dilute what the draw is in the first place. Anyway go on enjoying TN and come visit sometime. Book a few days extra before or after a conference and see the redwoods, they are the largest and oldest living organisms on earth.