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>> out of the last 68 years, Scotland has voted Conservative 6 times, but has had Conservative governments for 38 of those years Do you mean that Scotland has

>> out of the last 68 years, Scotland has voted Conservative 6 times, but has had Conservative governments for 38 of those years Do you mean that Scotland has voted Conservative in 6 general elections? If so, with a maximum of 5 years between elections, they voted for a Conservative govt for up to 30years of those 38. That's quite a misleading way to represent that statistic isn't it?

nmeofthestate 12y ago
On this page you can see graphical representation of Scottish and UK voting patterns, and how 'subtracting' Scottish votes would have affected UK results (in fact, very little): http://theweebluebook.com/principles-and-politics.php http://theweebluebook.com/principles-and-politics.php
- bruceboughton 12y ago
  This does not address my comment. Is the 6 times: 6 parliaments or 6 years? Is the 68: 68 parliaments or 68 years? Are units being mixed for exaggeration?
  - hughmcg 12y ago
    In both the unit is years. However, the figure of 6 is incorrect as I assume it refers to the fact that in 1951 the Conservatives (at the time the Unionist and National Liberal and Conservative parties in Scotland) got the same number of seats as Labour in Scotland. If we count this, the correct figure is 8 of 68 years.
  - nmeofthestate 12y ago
    Dunno - it seems like the 6 thing is mistaken. Simple enough to look at the graphical representation to see reality.
- nextw33k 12y ago
  I take issue with your use of the term very little. Granted it didn't change the ruling party, however our system isn't just the ruling party there is also the consideration of the majority of the house. From the linked source on your page [1] we see: 41 Labour MPs were sent to Westminster 11 Liberal Democrats 1 Conservative From the overall election we know that there was a total of 646 MPs in Westminster [2]. So combine the (41 + 11) - 1 is a combined swing to a Conservative majority in the House of Commons. That's giving the Conservatives about an 8% greater majority. Whilst Scotland didn't pick the Westminster parliament, they certainly had a hand in providing opposition to any Conservative government. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_Kingdom_general_election_results_in_Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_Kingdom_general_ele... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election...
brortao 12y ago
Sorry, I phrased that wrong. I meant that they've voted Tory in one (and a half) election, so 6 years - like nmeofthestate wrote, there's a good image on the website linked.

nmeofthestate 12y ago

On this page you can see graphical representation of Scottish and UK voting patterns, and how 'subtracting' Scottish votes would have affected UK results (in fact, very little): http://theweebluebook.com/principles-and-politics.php http://theweebluebook.com/principles-and-politics.php

bruceboughton 12y ago
This does not address my comment. Is the 6 times: 6 parliaments or 6 years? Is the 68: 68 parliaments or 68 years? Are units being mixed for exaggeration?
- hughmcg 12y ago
  In both the unit is years. However, the figure of 6 is incorrect as I assume it refers to the fact that in 1951 the Conservatives (at the time the Unionist and National Liberal and Conservative parties in Scotland) got the same number of seats as Labour in Scotland. If we count this, the correct figure is 8 of 68 years.
- nmeofthestate 12y ago
  Dunno - it seems like the 6 thing is mistaken. Simple enough to look at the graphical representation to see reality.
nextw33k 12y ago
I take issue with your use of the term very little. Granted it didn't change the ruling party, however our system isn't just the ruling party there is also the consideration of the majority of the house. From the linked source on your page [1] we see: 41 Labour MPs were sent to Westminster 11 Liberal Democrats 1 Conservative From the overall election we know that there was a total of 646 MPs in Westminster [2]. So combine the (41 + 11) - 1 is a combined swing to a Conservative majority in the House of Commons. That's giving the Conservatives about an 8% greater majority. Whilst Scotland didn't pick the Westminster parliament, they certainly had a hand in providing opposition to any Conservative government. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_Kingdom_general_election_results_in_Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_Kingdom_general_ele... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2005 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election...

brortao 12y ago

Sorry, I phrased that wrong. I meant that they've voted Tory in one (and a half) election, so 6 years - like nmeofthestate wrote, there's a good image on the website linked.