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Wait, the spec doesn't even address things like tables.

by Xeoncross 12y ago

masklinn 12y ago
Because tables are implementation-specific extensions.
- smackfu 12y ago
  Does the spec allow extensions?
- remi 12y ago
  Yes, they’re part of Markdown Extra[0], written by Michel Fortin. [0]: http://web.archive.org/web/20140830092621/https://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/ http://web.archive.org/web/20140830092621/https://michelf.ca...
- Falkon1313 12y ago
  So the standard does not provide a standard? I find the dokuwiki table syntax to be pretty simple and effective, or the markdown extra version. Don't know why none has been made a standard part of markdown yet. Seems like it must be due to backlash against table-based web designs of the 1990s, (which resulted in an entire generation of web developers thinking that tables are inherently evil and an entire generation of non-developers who just do things in MS Word or Excel instead because it's relatively easy to make tables).
  - masklinn 12y ago
    > So the standard does not provide a standard? A standard can be descriptive (bottom-up) or top-down (prescriptive). A descriptive standard will only check and document common-ish features to implementations. Tables are not one of them.
- ahoge 12y ago
  So are fenced code blocks.
  - masklinn 12y ago
    I assume the spec is descriptive, and fenced code blocks are 1. a pretty common extension and 2. generally added the same way everywhere
    - ahoge 12y ago
      Reddit and GFM use the same table syntax. Reddit is huge [1]. GFM is widespread. PHP Markdown, MultiMarkdown, etc also support that syntax. Stack Overflow is pretty much the exception [2]. I'm not interested in Markdown parsers which do not support tables. They are useless to me. [1] http://www.reddit.com/about/ http://www.reddit.com/about/ - "last month, reddit had 114,540,040 unique visitors" [2] http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/138946/can-we-add-markdown-support-for-tables http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/138946/can-we-add-ma...
evv 12y ago
http://jgm.github.io/stmd/spec.html#html-block-tag http://jgm.github.io/stmd/spec.html#html-block-tag See example #87. Personally I think it is absurd to try and include HTML(5?) in this standard and I would much prefer the tables in github markdown: https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown#tables https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown#ta...

Wait, the spec doesn't even address things like tables.

masklinn 12y ago

Because tables are implementation-specific extensions.

smackfu 12y ago
Does the spec allow extensions?
remi 12y ago
Yes, they’re part of Markdown Extra[0], written by Michel Fortin. [0]: http://web.archive.org/web/20140830092621/https://michelf.ca/projects/php-markdown/extra/ http://web.archive.org/web/20140830092621/https://michelf.ca...
Falkon1313 12y ago
So the standard does not provide a standard? I find the dokuwiki table syntax to be pretty simple and effective, or the markdown extra version. Don't know why none has been made a standard part of markdown yet. Seems like it must be due to backlash against table-based web designs of the 1990s, (which resulted in an entire generation of web developers thinking that tables are inherently evil and an entire generation of non-developers who just do things in MS Word or Excel instead because it's relatively easy to make tables).
- masklinn 12y ago
  > So the standard does not provide a standard? A standard can be descriptive (bottom-up) or top-down (prescriptive). A descriptive standard will only check and document common-ish features to implementations. Tables are not one of them.
ahoge 12y ago
So are fenced code blocks.
- masklinn 12y ago
  I assume the spec is descriptive, and fenced code blocks are 1. a pretty common extension and 2. generally added the same way everywhere
  - ahoge 12y ago
    Reddit and GFM use the same table syntax. Reddit is huge [1]. GFM is widespread. PHP Markdown, MultiMarkdown, etc also support that syntax. Stack Overflow is pretty much the exception [2]. I'm not interested in Markdown parsers which do not support tables. They are useless to me. [1] http://www.reddit.com/about/ http://www.reddit.com/about/ - "last month, reddit had 114,540,040 unique visitors" [2] http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/138946/can-we-add-markdown-support-for-tables http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/138946/can-we-add-ma...

evv 12y ago

http://jgm.github.io/stmd/spec.html#html-block-tag http://jgm.github.io/stmd/spec.html#html-block-tag See example #87. Personally I think it is absurd to try and include HTML(5?) in this standard and I would much prefer the tables in github markdown: https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown#tables https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown#ta...