On the "boast", that probably came off a bit strongly. I'm pretty much a dick online. And in person my friends tell me... :-D Anyways, yes, OK, nothing new und

On the "boast", that probably came off a bit strongly. I'm pretty much a dick online. And in person my friends tell me... :-D Anyways, yes, OK, nothing new under the sun. I don't doubt better programmers than me did this awhile back. I'm just not aware of another OSS or Commercial O/RM that provides it, and I'd never seen it before. Also, I can't take credit for actually _implementing_ the Lazy Loading Contexts... that was someone else. Really smart guy, but he dropped out of the project eventually. DM is just crazy sometimes, but with 0.10 Dan says that's changing. I'd trust it again when someone big deploys and raves about it, I just don't have any motivation to investigate it personally. I think there's better things to spend your time on considering Sequel is around. Why fight it? I took code from Sharon early on (connection pooling), he took code from me (block query syntax), Sequel is kinda the best of both worlds. I've never thought building an O/RM on top of a Table Data Gateway was a good idea, but that's mostly a performance concern, and Sequel's performance is right up there so does it really matter? My only concern with Sequel is that last I looked it's not as robust as Hibernate when it comes to aliasing tables. But then what is? It's probably a rare enough issue that you can just get around it with the sproc or ad-hoc query support once or twice in a given large app.