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Not if you pay them accordingly. Moving is not that big a deal. I am talking about projects for public benefit. Some things have to be built somewhere, after a

Not if you pay them accordingly. Moving is not that big a deal. I am talking about projects for public benefit. Some things have to be built somewhere, after all.

toyg 12y ago
"Not if you pay them accordingly." And so it came to be, that money was the measure of everything. I hate to border on strawman-building, but... what if I told you that you have to renounce your laptop, your telephone number, all your social media accounts, all your pictures, everything you've ever hold dear, right now, "for the good of the community"? Of course I'll pay you "accordingly" (up to a point, i.e. just enough to replace them). Would you take it? For a lot of old people, relinquishing their homes means losing memories and likely being uprooted from the community they belong to, which is what they really care about. They don't care too much about their bank accounts, because they are aware that their time is short and what really matters for them is the connections they can still make, the history they can pass on. That sort of thing doesn't have a price tag.
- facepalm 12y ago
  Well helping people has a price tag. If they don't care for the money, they could still accept it and donate it to cancer research or food donations for starving children. It still seems selfish... In any case what is the point of the discussion if I say "if they pay accordingly" and you say "but they won't"? Money as a measure for everything - it is just a convenient proxy for talking about the value of things. What is so bad about that? Should these people be paid off in other things? Like what?
  - toyg 12y ago
    The point is that in some cases, there are things that cannot be "paid off", whatever the currency. Not everything can be bought and sold.
debt 12y ago
"Moving is not that big a deal." I'm going to venture a guess that either you've never moved or if you have, you just threw nearly all your possessions out and started completely anew.
- mdc 12y ago
  Or he's never had a home in the full sense of the word.

Not if you pay them accordingly. Moving is not that big a deal. I am talking about projects for public benefit. Some things have to be built somewhere, after all.

toyg 12y ago

"Not if you pay them accordingly." And so it came to be, that money was the measure of everything. I hate to border on strawman-building, but... what if I told you that you have to renounce your laptop, your telephone number, all your social media accounts, all your pictures, everything you've ever hold dear, right now, "for the good of the community"? Of course I'll pay you "accordingly" (up to a point, i.e. just enough to replace them). Would you take it? For a lot of old people, relinquishing their homes means losing memories and likely being uprooted from the community they belong to, which is what they really care about. They don't care too much about their bank accounts, because they are aware that their time is short and what really matters for them is the connections they can still make, the history they can pass on. That sort of thing doesn't have a price tag.

facepalm 12y ago
Well helping people has a price tag. If they don't care for the money, they could still accept it and donate it to cancer research or food donations for starving children. It still seems selfish... In any case what is the point of the discussion if I say "if they pay accordingly" and you say "but they won't"? Money as a measure for everything - it is just a convenient proxy for talking about the value of things. What is so bad about that? Should these people be paid off in other things? Like what?
- toyg 12y ago
  The point is that in some cases, there are things that cannot be "paid off", whatever the currency. Not everything can be bought and sold.

debt 12y ago

"Moving is not that big a deal." I'm going to venture a guess that either you've never moved or if you have, you just threw nearly all your possessions out and started completely anew.

mdc 12y ago
Or he's never had a home in the full sense of the word.