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I loved that thing all the way up until I saw that ctrl and fn were swapped from the standard layout =-( Otherwise, I know of quite a few people who could real

by nnnnni 12y ago

I loved that thing all the way up until I saw that ctrl and fn were swapped from the standard layout =-( Otherwise, I know of quite a few people who could really use this thing!

lukasm 12y ago
Actually, this is standard layout.
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- gilgoomesh 12y ago
  There is no standard. Lenovo and Apple place the Fn key to the left of the Control key. Most others place them the other way around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key#Fn_and_Control_key_placement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key#Fn_and_Control_key_place...
DiThi 12y ago
They are correct for me. I stopped using my cheap bluetooth keyboard because Fn is in the corner and I can't remap it. There's no "standard" that dictates where Fn is, and I prefer Ctrl to be always in the same place.
jsmeaton 12y ago
I hate having the FN key in the bottom left corner. Hate hate hate. I remap it back to CTRL. I instinctually reach for the last key when aiming for control, and it not being there really throws off my typing, and really really throws off my gaming.
- miahi 12y ago
  What I find strange is that touch typing with the remapped "CTRL in the corner" works great, but when I look at the keyboard and try the same combination (usually for strange combinations), I press the "wrong" (Fn) key.
  - mcguire 12y ago
    Welcome to the world of this particular dvorak user. If I don't look at the keyboard, I get dvorak; if I look at the keyboard, I get qwerty. Doesn't seem to matter what's printed on the keys.
rickyc091 12y ago
Logitech has other multi bluetooth keyboards. Ever since I broke my apple one I changed over to this one (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard-for-mac-ipad-iphone?crid=26 http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard-f...) Logitech Model #K811. To change device, I hit fn + f1,f2,f3 and it takes about 5-10 seconds to pair to the other device. I believe I have to hit fn since I changed it to use the standard F keys by default.
- slantyyz 12y ago
  It is worth noting that the MSRP is $100 vs the K480's $50.
prof_hobart 12y ago
Different laptops have different layouts. My work laptop (UK HP EliteBook) has them in the same order as this one.

by nnnnni 12y ago

I loved that thing all the way up until I saw that ctrl and fn were swapped from the standard layout =-( Otherwise, I know of quite a few people who could really use this thing!

lukasm 12y ago

Actually, this is standard layout.

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gilgoomesh 12y ago
There is no standard. Lenovo and Apple place the Fn key to the left of the Control key. Most others place them the other way around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key#Fn_and_Control_key_placement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fn_key#Fn_and_Control_key_place...

DiThi 12y ago

They are correct for me. I stopped using my cheap bluetooth keyboard because Fn is in the corner and I can't remap it. There's no "standard" that dictates where Fn is, and I prefer Ctrl to be always in the same place.

jsmeaton 12y ago

I hate having the FN key in the bottom left corner. Hate hate hate. I remap it back to CTRL. I instinctually reach for the last key when aiming for control, and it not being there really throws off my typing, and really really throws off my gaming.

miahi 12y ago
What I find strange is that touch typing with the remapped "CTRL in the corner" works great, but when I look at the keyboard and try the same combination (usually for strange combinations), I press the "wrong" (Fn) key.
- mcguire 12y ago
  Welcome to the world of this particular dvorak user. If I don't look at the keyboard, I get dvorak; if I look at the keyboard, I get qwerty. Doesn't seem to matter what's printed on the keys.

rickyc091 12y ago

Logitech has other multi bluetooth keyboards. Ever since I broke my apple one I changed over to this one (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard-for-mac-ipad-iphone?crid=26 http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/illuminated-keyboard-f...) Logitech Model #K811. To change device, I hit fn + f1,f2,f3 and it takes about 5-10 seconds to pair to the other device. I believe I have to hit fn since I changed it to use the standard F keys by default.

slantyyz 12y ago
It is worth noting that the MSRP is $100 vs the K480's $50.

prof_hobart 12y ago

Different laptops have different layouts. My work laptop (UK HP EliteBook) has them in the same order as this one.