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The previous 'Uber in Germany' discussions were about insurance coverage, something that most (all?) Uber drivers would lack supposedly. So yes, there's eviden

The previous 'Uber in Germany' discussions were about insurance coverage, something that most (all?) Uber drivers would lack supposedly. So yes, there's evidence that Uber is less safe. Not in the 'drivers are reckless' or 'vehicles are crashing a lot' sense, but in the 'someone covers your .. behind' sense.

madeofpalk 12y ago
So Uber themselves cover insurance for drivers and their passengers. Is that not enough?
- CaptainZapp 12y ago
  Do they? And if they do, what exactly is insured and how high is the coverage? Can you point out to a credible source for this assertion of yours (which I find hard to believe), which is not an Uber blog entry, or some astroturfing organization?
  - icebraining 12y ago
    They have published the insurance certificate: http://www.scribd.com/doc/234793785/Certificate-of-Liability-Insurance-7-22-14 http://www.scribd.com/doc/234793785/Certificate-of-Liability...
    - jacquesm 12y ago
      Good luck using that in Germany.
      - icebraining 12y ago
        Oh, fair enough. As far as I can tell, they haven't published anything on that regard.
        jacquesm 12y ago
        Interesting comment on that page too, a driver was ticketed for not having a valid commercial insurance (ticket copy linked to imgurl).
- darklajid 12y ago
  No. See the excellent answer here [1]. Next up on that list for me would be the 'license'. I have a license that allows me to drive every (street legal) truck, up to 40t. I'm also allowed to drive busses (they fall under the same category), IF they're mostly empty (I think up to 8 people are okay) and it's not a commercial ride (i.e. 8 friends, not 8 paying passengers). If I want to do something like that, I need an additional license. Like every cab driver does. This isn't something that Uber can cover. The might be able to require their users to have this license (and prove it), but .. that's part of what the court is trying to say here, for all I understand. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8256398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8256398
  - jacquesm 12y ago
    8 is correct, the actual rule is '9 including the driver', so you're spot on.
  - madeofpalk 12y ago
    I understand the requirement for drivers to be licensed for what they're doing (accepting fares, just like how UberBlack drivers are required to be licensed hire car operators), but that's not what I was talking about.
    - darklajid 12y ago
      In that case I'm confused. What _are_ you talking about? This thread is about the reasons why Uber isn't legal and needs to start following the law. One requirement for that is the insurance, one completely different requirement is the license for commercial transport for each driver that .. well .. operates a cab. Whatever the company is called. (Deep within my soul I really dislike this 'Hah, your laws are outdated and wrong, we will liberate you' type of services from abroad and I snicker every time German media talks about 'Uber' - a term that is usually connected to the German language, to über - being fined for being utterly careless (or reckless) about their operation in Germany. It's quite ironic in my little world)
      - 12y ago

madeofpalk 12y ago

So Uber themselves cover insurance for drivers and their passengers. Is that not enough?

CaptainZapp 12y ago
Do they? And if they do, what exactly is insured and how high is the coverage? Can you point out to a credible source for this assertion of yours (which I find hard to believe), which is not an Uber blog entry, or some astroturfing organization?
- icebraining 12y ago
  They have published the insurance certificate: http://www.scribd.com/doc/234793785/Certificate-of-Liability-Insurance-7-22-14 http://www.scribd.com/doc/234793785/Certificate-of-Liability...
  - jacquesm 12y ago
    Good luck using that in Germany.
    - icebraining 12y ago
      Oh, fair enough. As far as I can tell, they haven't published anything on that regard.
      - jacquesm 12y ago
        Interesting comment on that page too, a driver was ticketed for not having a valid commercial insurance (ticket copy linked to imgurl).
darklajid 12y ago
No. See the excellent answer here [1]. Next up on that list for me would be the 'license'. I have a license that allows me to drive every (street legal) truck, up to 40t. I'm also allowed to drive busses (they fall under the same category), IF they're mostly empty (I think up to 8 people are okay) and it's not a commercial ride (i.e. 8 friends, not 8 paying passengers). If I want to do something like that, I need an additional license. Like every cab driver does. This isn't something that Uber can cover. The might be able to require their users to have this license (and prove it), but .. that's part of what the court is trying to say here, for all I understand. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8256398 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8256398
- jacquesm 12y ago
  8 is correct, the actual rule is '9 including the driver', so you're spot on.
- madeofpalk 12y ago
  I understand the requirement for drivers to be licensed for what they're doing (accepting fares, just like how UberBlack drivers are required to be licensed hire car operators), but that's not what I was talking about.
  - darklajid 12y ago
    In that case I'm confused. What _are_ you talking about? This thread is about the reasons why Uber isn't legal and needs to start following the law. One requirement for that is the insurance, one completely different requirement is the license for commercial transport for each driver that .. well .. operates a cab. Whatever the company is called. (Deep within my soul I really dislike this 'Hah, your laws are outdated and wrong, we will liberate you' type of services from abroad and I snicker every time German media talks about 'Uber' - a term that is usually connected to the German language, to über - being fined for being utterly careless (or reckless) about their operation in Germany. It's quite ironic in my little world)
    - 12y ago