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I believe you would be downvoted less harshly if you provided a few reputable sources to back your statement.

alrs 12y ago
This subject freaks people out, vegetarians especially. A huge part of identity for some people is based on the knowledge that they're living on a healthy plant-based diet. It turns out that said diet is less healthy than subsisting on bacon grease. This causes cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance causes knee-jerk downvotes. Citations? How about the study spelled out in the article?
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- throwaway5752 12y ago
  The reddit thread, you mean? Are we calling those articles now? The vegetarian thing does not folow. Just because keto/atkins/paleo works, doesn't mean anything else works. Nothing is better than the low calorie diet.
  - alrs 12y ago
    No, not Reddit. The NYT article that we are commenting on. I offer up the reddit link for anyone interested in the mechanics of HFLC.
    - fintler 12y ago
      It might be a good idea to link to the FAQ instead of the subreddit. It has an overview of the chemistry behind the diet -- for example, the use of urinalysis test strips. http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq
- kazinator 12y ago
  You can have saturated fats on a plant diet: coconut and palm oil, for example. (These are even used in infant formula, incidentally). There are animals that eat plants rather than other animals: they are called herbivores. Herbivores somehow develop muscles. We can't eat exactly like herbivores. Herbivores eat grass and leaves in huge quantities and have the digestive system for it: they can get enough protein and overall calories that way. Still, we can achieve a given number of calories and a desired fraction of them from protein and fat, using vegetable sources.
- wfjackson 12y ago
  Where in the referenced article did it mention that the low fat diet was a plant based diet? Here's a citation against your assertion. http://www.jfponline.com/fileadmin/qhi/jfp/pdfs/6307/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf http://www.jfponline.com/fileadmin/qhi/jfp/pdfs/6307/JFP_063...

alrs 12y ago

This subject freaks people out, vegetarians especially. A huge part of identity for some people is based on the knowledge that they're living on a healthy plant-based diet. It turns out that said diet is less healthy than subsisting on bacon grease. This causes cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance causes knee-jerk downvotes. Citations? How about the study spelled out in the article?

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throwaway5752 12y ago
The reddit thread, you mean? Are we calling those articles now? The vegetarian thing does not folow. Just because keto/atkins/paleo works, doesn't mean anything else works. Nothing is better than the low calorie diet.
- alrs 12y ago
  No, not Reddit. The NYT article that we are commenting on. I offer up the reddit link for anyone interested in the mechanics of HFLC.
  - fintler 12y ago
    It might be a good idea to link to the FAQ instead of the subreddit. It has an overview of the chemistry behind the diet -- for example, the use of urinalysis test strips. http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq
kazinator 12y ago
You can have saturated fats on a plant diet: coconut and palm oil, for example. (These are even used in infant formula, incidentally). There are animals that eat plants rather than other animals: they are called herbivores. Herbivores somehow develop muscles. We can't eat exactly like herbivores. Herbivores eat grass and leaves in huge quantities and have the digestive system for it: they can get enough protein and overall calories that way. Still, we can achieve a given number of calories and a desired fraction of them from protein and fat, using vegetable sources.
wfjackson 12y ago
Where in the referenced article did it mention that the low fat diet was a plant based diet? Here's a citation against your assertion. http://www.jfponline.com/fileadmin/qhi/jfp/pdfs/6307/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf http://www.jfponline.com/fileadmin/qhi/jfp/pdfs/6307/JFP_063...