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The Vyron isn't a performance car. You can easily build an Ultima GTR for less than $100,000 with well over 600 HP. People often mistake expensive with fast,

by ynniv 17y ago

The Vyron isn't a performance car. You can easily build an Ultima GTR for less than $100,000 with well over 600 HP. People often mistake expensive with fast, when expensive really means safe, luxurious, flashy and then fast. Ellison's roadster is not safe, or luxurious, but it is flashy and fast. [ http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=usaintro http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=usaintro ]

ryanwaggoner 17y ago
When you say "Vyron", I can only assume that you're talking about the Veyron, which decidedly is a performance car: BHP: > 1000 bhp 0 - 60: < 2.5 sec Top Speed: > 253 mph Braking: 249 mph to 0 in < 10 sec 1/4-mile: 10.2 sec Not a performance car, my ass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron
- ryanwaggoner 17y ago
  Apologies for the poor formatting...meant this: BHP: > 1000 bhp 0 - 60: < 2.5 sec Top Speed: > 253 mph Braking: 249 mph to 0 in < 10 sec 1/4-mile: 10.2 sec
- ynniv 17y ago
  Glad that you get upvoted for completely missing the point. The parent was surprised that a custom, hand built car could cost $60,000 and have a higher power to weight ratio than a Veyron (the misspelling was accidentally carried from the parent). Veyron: P/W ratio: .24 Price: $1,400,000 Quarter mile: 10.2 Ariel Atom: P/W ratio: .3 Price: $65,000 Quarter mile: 10.4 Ultima GTR: P/W ratio: .333 Price: ~ $100,000 Quarter mile: 9.9 So the Veyron is only $90,000 (6.4%) worth of performance and $1,310,000 (93.6%) of something else. It is an overpriced luxury car that is fast. An Ariel Atom or an Ultima GTR is a 100% performance (aka "race") car.
  - ryanwaggoner 17y ago
    The comparison is irrelevant; I was simply responding to your statement that the Veyron isn't a performance car. The fact that a homebuilt allegedly beats it on a metric or two hardly means that it's no longer a performance car. That's like saying that I can build a model rocket with a higher P/W ratio than an F-22, so the F-22 isn't really a performance jet.
    - ynniv 17y ago
      Dude, the original comment and the point of the thread was price per performance. You are technically correct but missing the point in saying that the Veyron is a "performance" car, and I stand by my statement that it is 6% performance and 94% flash and exclusivity. Your comments regarding P/W and comparison of an F-22 to a rocket are illogical. A rocket is not a fighter jet, but an GTR720 is an automobile, one which in every way out performs a Veyron at 1/14 the price. If you feel the need to make sure that the Veyron is labeled as a "performance" car, continue to repeat yourself. You will be missing the forest for the trees, because no one purchases this car based on performance.

by ynniv 17y ago

ryanwaggoner 17y ago

When you say "Vyron", I can only assume that you're talking about the Veyron, which decidedly is a performance car: BHP: > 1000 bhp 0 - 60: < 2.5 sec Top Speed: > 253 mph Braking: 249 mph to 0 in < 10 sec 1/4-mile: 10.2 sec Not a performance car, my ass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

ryanwaggoner 17y ago
Apologies for the poor formatting...meant this: BHP: > 1000 bhp 0 - 60: < 2.5 sec Top Speed: > 253 mph Braking: 249 mph to 0 in < 10 sec 1/4-mile: 10.2 sec
ynniv 17y ago
Glad that you get upvoted for completely missing the point. The parent was surprised that a custom, hand built car could cost $60,000 and have a higher power to weight ratio than a Veyron (the misspelling was accidentally carried from the parent). Veyron: P/W ratio: .24 Price: $1,400,000 Quarter mile: 10.2 Ariel Atom: P/W ratio: .3 Price: $65,000 Quarter mile: 10.4 Ultima GTR: P/W ratio: .333 Price: ~ $100,000 Quarter mile: 9.9 So the Veyron is only $90,000 (6.4%) worth of performance and $1,310,000 (93.6%) of something else. It is an overpriced luxury car that is fast. An Ariel Atom or an Ultima GTR is a 100% performance (aka "race") car.
- ryanwaggoner 17y ago
  The comparison is irrelevant; I was simply responding to your statement that the Veyron isn't a performance car. The fact that a homebuilt allegedly beats it on a metric or two hardly means that it's no longer a performance car. That's like saying that I can build a model rocket with a higher P/W ratio than an F-22, so the F-22 isn't really a performance jet.
  - ynniv 17y ago
    Dude, the original comment and the point of the thread was price per performance. You are technically correct but missing the point in saying that the Veyron is a "performance" car, and I stand by my statement that it is 6% performance and 94% flash and exclusivity. Your comments regarding P/W and comparison of an F-22 to a rocket are illogical. A rocket is not a fighter jet, but an GTR720 is an automobile, one which in every way out performs a Veyron at 1/14 the price. If you feel the need to make sure that the Veyron is labeled as a "performance" car, continue to repeat yourself. You will be missing the forest for the trees, because no one purchases this car based on performance.