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Nice uppercut. mcendella I despise you. Obviously you have never been the victim of the police. Even if she did a roundhouse kick knocking him down and teabagg
by mrottenkolber 12y ago
Nice uppercut.
mcendella I despise you. Obviously you have never been the victim of the police. Even if she did a roundhouse kick knocking him down and teabagged him afterwards that would be no excuse for her treatment.
There is a difference between a violent protester and a violent policeman. The policeman is trained and armed. He is also getting paid to suppress the protest. The protester on the other hand has a non-commercial agenda, which might be idealistic and in a way not voluntary. The protester has no combat training, no armor. The protester does not choose to enter a violent conflict with the police. The police on the other hand chooses to act as a more often that not active, as opposed to passive, violent force opposed to the protest.
During duty, police officers do not deserve the protection of civil law. It can not be crime to insult, hurt or kill a police officer during a heated protest, as it is no crime for a police officer to insult, hurt or kill a civillian in the course of his duty.
To argue on this specific case, there appears to be proof that she was groped. So there should be a sexual harrassment charge (might be dropped due to "not on purpose"). She reacted violently, within seven seconds. In germany thats called "Affekt". Completely legal, actually she had the right to spontaniously choke the guy even if he was civillian (in germany, as long as she was fast enough).
So lets just say the cops had a reason to arrest her (btw on a protest cops usually arrest anyone for anything, because why not), they beat her up doing so.
Quote from your video: "Is she getting beat up?", "Yes, shes getting beat up."
So why are those guys not tried and sentenced to fucking death (what do you have the death sentence for again)? Even I could arrest that girl without hurting her ffs. These guys should be trained to do so.
To sum this up, the mind of a violent protester goes something like this:
"Fuck they're gonna hurt/kill me, im scared im enraged im panicking, i want to get out of this situation."
The mind of a police officer during a protest goes something like this (actually exactly):
"Fucking protesters, im standing here like an idiot, these fucking broad minded fuckers. Hey, wait, did she just kinda look violent? FINALLY a reason why I can assault one of these fucks."
I got hit by a baton once[1], trying to escape out of a "Kessel" (a circle of policement surounding protesters while throwing tear gas inside). Hit my leg, beside my leg being fucked, i weant deaf for ten minutes (might be an adrenaline/pain/shock think who knows). And thats nothing. I've seen 13 year old girls getting beaten by 4 cops with batons and cops spraying maze into your face from a 1 foot distance because you decided to shout at them.
These are not rare cases. This happens on every protest, its the police's job to make it happen on every protest.
If you ever get arrested during a protest, you can count on being beat up during that arrest. Also expect verbal assault. Unless you are verbally assaulted multiple times during arrest, you must have met a jesus-like cop.
Try it for yourself, there are some things that will get you arrested which will actually not be procecuted (in germany thats for instance being masked), also try to run away when they try to arrest you otherwise you might not get the whole getting kneed in the back while on the ground experience. Its a pretty weird feeling. Afterwards go to a doctor, tell him you've been beaten up. Watch their concerned facial expression while asking you "Who'd do such a thing?". I bet you don't feel nearly as violated as the doctor thinks you have been.[2]
So I must say, every time someone gets sentenced for hurting a police officer during protest:
BOO FUCKING HOO, poor little officer. Really. Poor personfied violence of the state. You got hurt, during your job, which is to hurt adversaries of the state. Someone should play a violin.
Edited, footnotes:
[1] I think I was 16, it was a counter protest against a Neo-nazi parade.
[2] Also first hand experience. I was 17, it was a student protest for better education. I have video footage. No charges against me but I have a medical certificate that I was violated.
PS: If you think I am a radical activist. Quite the opposite, the few protests I have been to made me stay far away of any kind of police presence (including protests) since then. Its telling that of five protests I've been to in my life, on four I would consider having seen serious human rights violations.
- jbdigriz 12y agoThis rant has no relevance to the article or to anything much in general, save perhaps as an obvious illustration of projection and the proverbial chip on one's shoulder. The maladjusted low-life vagrant in the article should consider herself lucky that all she got was a slap on the wrist for this. She very much embodies the majority archetype present at those protests: the entitled, middle class out-of-town suburbanite hell bent on stirring up trouble in a city which has up until then been extremely tolerant of the juvenile, disruptive behavior of extremists it's native population largely disagrees with. These dirtbags spent six months trashing, pissing and shitting on an iconic neighborhood with no real purpose to speak of. The only mistake the city made (and forced the police force to uphold) was allowing this charade to go out beyond the first day it started, at a massive monetary and logistical cost despite an overwhelming negative sentiment against this movement from the local population - the only one's whose opinions really matter. What's is truly amusing are the many sentiments of those in the comments immediately rushing to condemn the police - clearly, non-native arm chair judicial hobbyists drawing the entirety of their opinions based solely on one-sided articles. Its amusing because save for a few of the pre-planned, large scale "demonstrations" (read: interference of traffic/public transportation and harassment of native New Yorkers just trying to get to work) the police were there NOT to keep the OWS protesters in check; they were there to PROTECT them from the rest of New York which was irate and on the verge of tearing them apart. Had they not been around to guard these parasites and ultimately clean up the filth and squalor they had created, the NYC Vigilante justice would have been far less measured in their response. No one took kindly to these fuckers attempting to infiltrate and occupy their backyard and rightly so. Let's have assholes fuck, shit, piss, and bang drums right outside your door for over 6 months straight and see how you feel in the end. Then let's multiply that by 100 - let's see who you call to help sort that nightmare out.