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Alcor is a non-profit, and they're not implying anything other than the truth, which is that you're unlikely to get unfrozen, but it'd be cool if somehow you co

by kvee 12y ago

Alcor is a non-profit, and they're not implying anything other than the truth, which is that you're unlikely to get unfrozen, but it'd be cool if somehow you could be and maybe one day someone will figure it out. And this is exactly why more research should be done to figure it out. Human creativity when provided the right incentives and not over-regulated is a pretty powerful thing. Future generations may look back on us as unbelievably primitive and may have trouble believing that we suffered physical death and thought it an inescapable and acceptable part of life.

teddyh 12y ago
> […] maybe one day someone will figure it out. So it’s like Pascal’s wager, except it is a real wager which costs money. > […] more research should be done […] Absolutely, but it is very hard to guard against wishful thinking, which absolutely everybody has an incentive to succumb to. > Future generations may […] have trouble believing that we suffered physical death […] …and there it is.
- blueskin_ 12y ago
  >So it’s like Pascal’s wager, except it is a real wager which costs money. Even if you have the money, it's recommended you don't pay directly as it can get caught up in legal battles, all the while your brain is rotting. the vast majority pay via life insurance, although if you were for whatever reason uninsurable and had sufficient cash on hand, I guess they might accept it while you are still alive as a donation. Unlike pascal's wager, it's also the only game in town when it comes to avoiding death, unlike religion where if you picked the wrong one out of any of the millions that have existed in human history, you made a mistake that ruins your chances under the vast majority of them (AKA "What happens if you spend your life praying to Jesus in the hopes of getting a reward, then you end up facing Hel, Anubis, Hades/Pluto, Erebus, Allah, Mormon Space Kolob God, any of the native american myths, Flying Spaghetti Monster, or even Cthulhu instead?").
afafsd 12y ago
>Alcor is a non-profit I'm not convinced that being a non-profit vs for-profit really changes the incentives for an organisation. No doubt the founder and CEO is paying himself a comfortable salary out of Alcor's money.
- blueskin_ 12y ago
  So, like every other charity in the world? Actually, they are still better than that as they don't blow millions worth of donations on long guilt-tripping TV adverts. Honestly, if a few employees make a living, I'm fine with that; good for them for advancing the field of life extension.
  - teddyh 12y ago
    > So, like every other charity in the world? Yes, the incentives in this case are the same.

by kvee 12y ago

teddyh 12y ago

> […] maybe one day someone will figure it out. So it’s like Pascal’s wager, except it is a real wager which costs money. > […] more research should be done […] Absolutely, but it is very hard to guard against wishful thinking, which absolutely everybody has an incentive to succumb to. > Future generations may […] have trouble believing that we suffered physical death […] …and there it is.

blueskin_ 12y ago
>So it’s like Pascal’s wager, except it is a real wager which costs money. Even if you have the money, it's recommended you don't pay directly as it can get caught up in legal battles, all the while your brain is rotting. the vast majority pay via life insurance, although if you were for whatever reason uninsurable and had sufficient cash on hand, I guess they might accept it while you are still alive as a donation. Unlike pascal's wager, it's also the only game in town when it comes to avoiding death, unlike religion where if you picked the wrong one out of any of the millions that have existed in human history, you made a mistake that ruins your chances under the vast majority of them (AKA "What happens if you spend your life praying to Jesus in the hopes of getting a reward, then you end up facing Hel, Anubis, Hades/Pluto, Erebus, Allah, Mormon Space Kolob God, any of the native american myths, Flying Spaghetti Monster, or even Cthulhu instead?").

afafsd 12y ago

>Alcor is a non-profit I'm not convinced that being a non-profit vs for-profit really changes the incentives for an organisation. No doubt the founder and CEO is paying himself a comfortable salary out of Alcor's money.

blueskin_ 12y ago
So, like every other charity in the world? Actually, they are still better than that as they don't blow millions worth of donations on long guilt-tripping TV adverts. Honestly, if a few employees make a living, I'm fine with that; good for them for advancing the field of life extension.
- teddyh 12y ago
  > So, like every other charity in the world? Yes, the incentives in this case are the same.