> The idea that communism or socialism is free from this kind of thing is ridiculous. Oh, sorry, I was referring to the problems specifically described in the

> The idea that communism or socialism is free from this kind of thing is ridiculous. Oh, sorry, I was referring to the problems specifically described in the article, not to "the idea of making people pay for their own punishment" in any general sense. I should have been more clear about that, or maybe you should be more careful about setting up straw men.