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mfw "the pentatonic scale." Pentatonic is a form of scales. There are innumerable pentatonic scales, although practically, it's bounded by about 50!/45!. [0]

mfw "the pentatonic scale." Pentatonic is a form of scales. There are innumerable pentatonic scales, although practically, it's bounded by about 50!/45!. [0] And in everyday 12-tone chromatic use, there are at least 5 different versions [1]. Even in Asian scales, there are numerous pentatonic scales in use. [0] presuming a pitch resolution of 2%. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbGYvHd0qo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbGYvHd0qo Blues music, for example, uses pentatonic scales, yet blues music does not sound like Thai music. Now that technical matter has been cleared, I find it hilarious and symptomatic that researchers didn't look into any CHINESE MUSIC to see if there were any sounds that might have influenced Western composers. For example, just listening to music played on a Gu Chin [ 2 ] reveals a number of similar intervals (such as single step motion and parallel fourths) and stark tonality that could easily be recognized in attempts by Western composers to imitate and integrate Chinese music. That article was less of a "how it happened" and more a "that it happened." The seething, suspicious racial tension underneath was distracting and needless. Everyone should ignore it (and probably the rest of NPR) and simply enjoy Chinese music for what it is: interesting and beautiful. sigh. [ 2 ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guqin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guqin

eeaamon 12y ago
you know more and have suggested more jumping-off points for further research than anyone else in this thread - so of course your comment is near the bottom. this site sometimes, sigh.
- rspeer 12y ago
  The comment is smug, unhelpful, and very misleading about the pentatonic scale. Okay, you could call any five notes a pentatonic scale, but don't let that distract you from the pentatonic scale, the set of five notes that appears in many cultures for solid music theoretical reasons. The linked video about blues is using the same scale, just with the notes in a different order. Different modes are not different scales. D F G A C is the same scale as C D F G A. We should be interested in the fact that blues and Thai music use the same intervals, not dismissive. The comment also continues to ramble through several kinda-music-theory-esque statements whose aim is not to inform, but just to make the author appear smart. Yep. This site sometimes.
  - chillingeffect 12y ago
    > the fact that blues and Thai music use the same intervals Blues and Thai music do not use the same intervals. Blues is hemitonic, Thai music is anhemitonic. ".And the Thai musical scale is indeed different -- for the intervals between all notes are exactly the same. This means that almost all the notes are slightly different in pitch from those on the western scale. Only the interval between a note and its octave, eight notes higher up the scale, is the same as in the west." [0] [0] http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/thai_article/2605_traditional_thai_music/traditional_thai_music.html http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/thai_article/2605_traditiona... > D F G A C is the same scale as C D F G A D F G A C is the D Minor Pentatonic scale [1] C D F G A is the C Blues Major Pentatonic scale, aka Chinese Ritusen scale [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale > Yep. This site sometimes. The problem with this site is that people don't accept information unless it's accompanied with a major dose of ass-kissing. "So, pretty please with sugar on top, clean the fucking car." > > kinda-music-theory-esque statements > solid music theoretical reasons Ok, you've done what you've accused me of doing. Care to back your statement up?

eeaamon 12y ago

you know more and have suggested more jumping-off points for further research than anyone else in this thread - so of course your comment is near the bottom. this site sometimes, sigh.

rspeer 12y ago
The comment is smug, unhelpful, and very misleading about the pentatonic scale. Okay, you could call any five notes a pentatonic scale, but don't let that distract you from the pentatonic scale, the set of five notes that appears in many cultures for solid music theoretical reasons. The linked video about blues is using the same scale, just with the notes in a different order. Different modes are not different scales. D F G A C is the same scale as C D F G A. We should be interested in the fact that blues and Thai music use the same intervals, not dismissive. The comment also continues to ramble through several kinda-music-theory-esque statements whose aim is not to inform, but just to make the author appear smart. Yep. This site sometimes.
- chillingeffect 12y ago
  > the fact that blues and Thai music use the same intervals Blues and Thai music do not use the same intervals. Blues is hemitonic, Thai music is anhemitonic. ".And the Thai musical scale is indeed different -- for the intervals between all notes are exactly the same. This means that almost all the notes are slightly different in pitch from those on the western scale. Only the interval between a note and its octave, eight notes higher up the scale, is the same as in the west." [0] [0] http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/thai_article/2605_traditional_thai_music/traditional_thai_music.html http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/thai_article/2605_traditiona... > D F G A C is the same scale as C D F G A D F G A C is the D Minor Pentatonic scale [1] C D F G A is the C Blues Major Pentatonic scale, aka Chinese Ritusen scale [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentatonic_scale > Yep. This site sometimes. The problem with this site is that people don't accept information unless it's accompanied with a major dose of ass-kissing. "So, pretty please with sugar on top, clean the fucking car." > > kinda-music-theory-esque statements > solid music theoretical reasons Ok, you've done what you've accused me of doing. Care to back your statement up?