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On top of that, A 150mb page kept locking up Firefox. I have multiple tabs open, so maybe that didn't help but I had to back out of the page for fear that it'll

On top of that, A 150mb page kept locking up Firefox. I have multiple tabs open, so maybe that didn't help but I had to back out of the page for fear that it'll crash.

frik 12y ago
I hope we get multi-process Firefox soon. Or that Mozilla ships a lightweight browser using their new "Servo" web render engine (Rust based). It's so annoying that a single tab can crash the whole browser, and it's also a security risk on Windows. The common "sandbox" model there is to spawn child processes with very limited user rights (like IE 8+, Chrome, Safari+Webkit2).
- Gmo 12y ago
  And I hope we won't have it (although I know they are working on it and it's on the roadmap, so I have no illusion). Given the number of tabs I have constantly open, I know that Chrome cannot handle it (I guess IE is the same here) and a multiprocess firefox won't either.
  - ewoodrich 12y ago
    How many tabs are you talking about? I've used Chrome with 100+ tabs spread out over a few windows on 8gb of RAM with very few problems. Firefox on the other hand, chokes much earlier than Chrome.
    - Gmo 12y ago
      To be honest, I did not experience it first hand myself, because I've read this behaviour from many other people. What I know is that I have more than 300 tabs in Firefox currently, both on my home machine and my work machine, and I don't have any problems with it. Edit: And I would add that my task manager is also not polluted with hundreds of chrome processes.
      - smt88 12y ago
        There are extensions or settings in most browsers that will lazy-load tabs for you. No transfer or rendering occurs until you open the tab. That aside, what could possibly require opening 300 tabs? That must be an absolute productivity killer... Why not use a bookmark manager or "read later" service or something?
        ewoodrich 12y ago
        I don't know what would need 300, but if I'm in the middle of working on a project, I might [open link in new tab] dozens of tutorials, docs and other resources as I gradually become more familiar with the domain and the gaps in my knowledge. Sure, they should get pruned to bookmarks, but you can't argue if a person's method of staying in the "zone" works for them, I suppose.
- sp332 12y ago
  Multi-process Firefox is codenamed "Electrolysis" or e10s and is already available in nightly builds. https://nightly.mozilla.org/ https://nightly.mozilla.org/ You can set it to make every tab its own process, or explicitly ask for an e10s window. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Enabling_Electrolysis https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Enabling_Electrolysis
  - mistermann 12y ago
    Can you comment on its support for add-ins (specifically tree-style tabs, the indispensable add-in that keeps me bound to Firefox)?

On top of that, A 150mb page kept locking up Firefox. I have multiple tabs open, so maybe that didn't help but I had to back out of the page for fear that it'll crash.

frik 12y ago

I hope we get multi-process Firefox soon. Or that Mozilla ships a lightweight browser using their new "Servo" web render engine (Rust based). It's so annoying that a single tab can crash the whole browser, and it's also a security risk on Windows. The common "sandbox" model there is to spawn child processes with very limited user rights (like IE 8+, Chrome, Safari+Webkit2).

Gmo 12y ago
And I hope we won't have it (although I know they are working on it and it's on the roadmap, so I have no illusion). Given the number of tabs I have constantly open, I know that Chrome cannot handle it (I guess IE is the same here) and a multiprocess firefox won't either.
- ewoodrich 12y ago
  How many tabs are you talking about? I've used Chrome with 100+ tabs spread out over a few windows on 8gb of RAM with very few problems. Firefox on the other hand, chokes much earlier than Chrome.
  - Gmo 12y ago
    To be honest, I did not experience it first hand myself, because I've read this behaviour from many other people. What I know is that I have more than 300 tabs in Firefox currently, both on my home machine and my work machine, and I don't have any problems with it. Edit: And I would add that my task manager is also not polluted with hundreds of chrome processes.
    - smt88 12y ago
      There are extensions or settings in most browsers that will lazy-load tabs for you. No transfer or rendering occurs until you open the tab. That aside, what could possibly require opening 300 tabs? That must be an absolute productivity killer... Why not use a bookmark manager or "read later" service or something?
      - ewoodrich 12y ago
        I don't know what would need 300, but if I'm in the middle of working on a project, I might [open link in new tab] dozens of tutorials, docs and other resources as I gradually become more familiar with the domain and the gaps in my knowledge. Sure, they should get pruned to bookmarks, but you can't argue if a person's method of staying in the "zone" works for them, I suppose.
sp332 12y ago
Multi-process Firefox is codenamed "Electrolysis" or e10s and is already available in nightly builds. https://nightly.mozilla.org/ https://nightly.mozilla.org/ You can set it to make every tab its own process, or explicitly ask for an e10s window. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Enabling_Electrolysis https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Enabling_Electrolysis
- mistermann 12y ago
  Can you comment on its support for add-ins (specifically tree-style tabs, the indispensable add-in that keeps me bound to Firefox)?