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So would you disagree with the general sentiment in the west that most Russian media is state controlled and relatively unfree compared to most western media?

by thenmar 12y ago

zorbo 12y ago
I don't agree or disagree, because I honestly have no idea, because I don't think I've been getting much official Russian media information. It don't think it's much different then it is over here in the west. People get their information from all over the place. I'm guessing there's national Russian media (which is state controlled, biased and in general not to be trusted), but there's also plenty of pro-russian international media, which is not bound by whatever the Russian government dictates. So in short, I think (but am not sure) that the whole concept of "State controlled Russian media" is a fallacy. Even if there's an agency that's state controlled, it doesn't matter. It would be like Fox news being owned by the U.S. government.
- varsketiz 12y ago
  That is a very western-ish view of how things in Russia are. You judge them by your own ideals. Yes, there might be some pro-russian international media that is not controlled by Kremlin, but most of the time you can trace the money to Russia. We can discuss any specific examples that you want - I'm not claiming knowledge here, but I don't want to do a lot of research for a HN comment. I'll give one example - rt.com. I mean, you "think" that is a fallacy, but what do you base it on? Do you think things like this don't indicate a thing? http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php I'm not claiming there is no pro-russian international media that is not funded by Russia. I am saying it will be difficult to find it. Imagine all the TV be like Fox News and actually controlled by the Government. You will get closer to Russian reality. You also have to understand that whatever you read in english, that comes from things like rt.com is adapted to a broader and more intelligent audience and to foreigners. What you get in russian is different. Disclaimer - I am a lithuanian, I am exposed to lithuanian media which covers things from Ukrainian perspective, sometimes covers news from the Separatist side; I am exposed to western media. Sadly, my russian is quite poor, so I'm not exposed to russian media in russian much.

So would you disagree with the general sentiment in the west that most Russian media is state controlled and relatively unfree compared to most western media?

by thenmar 12y ago

So would you disagree with the general sentiment in the west that most Russian media is state controlled and relatively unfree compared to most western media?

zorbo 12y ago

I don't agree or disagree, because I honestly have no idea, because I don't think I've been getting much official Russian media information. It don't think it's much different then it is over here in the west. People get their information from all over the place. I'm guessing there's national Russian media (which is state controlled, biased and in general not to be trusted), but there's also plenty of pro-russian international media, which is not bound by whatever the Russian government dictates. So in short, I think (but am not sure) that the whole concept of "State controlled Russian media" is a fallacy. Even if there's an agency that's state controlled, it doesn't matter. It would be like Fox news being owned by the U.S. government.

varsketiz 12y ago
That is a very western-ish view of how things in Russia are. You judge them by your own ideals. Yes, there might be some pro-russian international media that is not controlled by Kremlin, but most of the time you can trace the money to Russia. We can discuss any specific examples that you want - I'm not claiming knowledge here, but I don't want to do a lot of research for a HN comment. I'll give one example - rt.com. I mean, you "think" that is a fallacy, but what do you base it on? Do you think things like this don't indicate a thing? http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php I'm not claiming there is no pro-russian international media that is not funded by Russia. I am saying it will be difficult to find it. Imagine all the TV be like Fox News and actually controlled by the Government. You will get closer to Russian reality. You also have to understand that whatever you read in english, that comes from things like rt.com is adapted to a broader and more intelligent audience and to foreigners. What you get in russian is different. Disclaimer - I am a lithuanian, I am exposed to lithuanian media which covers things from Ukrainian perspective, sometimes covers news from the Separatist side; I am exposed to western media. Sadly, my russian is quite poor, so I'm not exposed to russian media in russian much.