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PHP 5.6.0

73 points by julien_c 12y ago

sarciszewski 12y ago
Also posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8236748 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8236748
aikah 12y ago
Good. Dont know if i'll still be using PHP in 5 years, but I think PHP team is trying hard to turn the language around and bring some sanity to the project. PHP7 ,the next version will be an important step in the right direction.
- sarciszewski 12y ago
  Agreed. The sanity started coming around circa 5.4 and has been increasing rapidly. The variadic operators will cut down on the number of lame func_get_args() hacks I have to write in my RESTful routing code :)
  - frenchy 12y ago
    I'm not sure how long you've been around, but if you remember the way that OOP was implemented in version 3, you'll realize they've been coming around for a while now.
    - sarciszewski 12y ago
      I've been writing PHP since right before 4.3 was released, but I was still a n00b then (I was in the 6th Grade) and don't remember a lot of the pre-5.2 quagmires.
      - mtbcoder 12y ago
        The biggest was probably that pass-by-value and pass-by-reference was flipped on its head in PHP4. Interesting times in PHP land back then!
- bshimmin 12y ago
  I don't really follow PHP much, so indulge me - what happened to PHP 6?
  - simonw 12y ago
    It was meant to be the big unicode refactor, but they killed the project back in 2010. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6 https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6 has some background.
  - deleted 12y ago
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  - trebor 12y ago
    The PHP working group decided that they didn't want the baggage belonging to the previous attempt to color PHPNG. There's still a lot of articles about the "PHP 6" that never came to be. So they've decided to skip version 6 and go straight to PHP 7. I think it's silly, personally.
  - gburnett 12y ago
    Not much. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#PHP_6_and_Unicode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#PHP_6_and_Unicode
  - icehawk219 12y ago
    What was supposed to be PHP 6 got turned into 5.5 after their attempt at unicode support went south. So now a bunch of folks want the next major version to be named PHP 7 on the basis that the name "PHP 6" has been tarnished. As a primarily PHP developer right now I honestly don't care what they call it as long as it moves the language forward. But the simple fact that there was a grand debate on the mailing list about something so meaningless and unimportant while important things are ignored is just more confirmation that my decision to begin moving away from the language was the right one.
- criveros 12y ago
  I'm just about to start learning PHP, and I'm glad I'm doing so now.
alphadevx 12y ago
Happy that they went with UTF-8 here: http://us.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.default-charset http://us.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.default-charset Some nice improvements overall.
jsamuel 12y ago
Congrats to the PHP team. We're quite happy to see PHP 5.3 fully EOL'd recently and 5.6 now released. In trying to do our part to encourage adoption, we've already added support for 5.6 to ServerPilot (https://serverpilot.io/ https://serverpilot.io/).

73 points by julien_c 12y ago

Also posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8236748 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8236748

aikah 12y ago

Good. Dont know if i'll still be using PHP in 5 years, but I think PHP team is trying hard to turn the language around and bring some sanity to the project. PHP7 ,the next version will be an important step in the right direction.

sarciszewski 12y ago
Agreed. The sanity started coming around circa 5.4 and has been increasing rapidly. The variadic operators will cut down on the number of lame func_get_args() hacks I have to write in my RESTful routing code :)
- frenchy 12y ago
  I'm not sure how long you've been around, but if you remember the way that OOP was implemented in version 3, you'll realize they've been coming around for a while now.
  - sarciszewski 12y ago
    I've been writing PHP since right before 4.3 was released, but I was still a n00b then (I was in the 6th Grade) and don't remember a lot of the pre-5.2 quagmires.
    - mtbcoder 12y ago
      The biggest was probably that pass-by-value and pass-by-reference was flipped on its head in PHP4. Interesting times in PHP land back then!
bshimmin 12y ago
I don't really follow PHP much, so indulge me - what happened to PHP 6?
- simonw 12y ago
  It was meant to be the big unicode refactor, but they killed the project back in 2010. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6 https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6 has some background.
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
- trebor 12y ago
  The PHP working group decided that they didn't want the baggage belonging to the previous attempt to color PHPNG. There's still a lot of articles about the "PHP 6" that never came to be. So they've decided to skip version 6 and go straight to PHP 7. I think it's silly, personally.
- gburnett 12y ago
  Not much. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#PHP_6_and_Unicode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#PHP_6_and_Unicode
- icehawk219 12y ago
  What was supposed to be PHP 6 got turned into 5.5 after their attempt at unicode support went south. So now a bunch of folks want the next major version to be named PHP 7 on the basis that the name "PHP 6" has been tarnished. As a primarily PHP developer right now I honestly don't care what they call it as long as it moves the language forward. But the simple fact that there was a grand debate on the mailing list about something so meaningless and unimportant while important things are ignored is just more confirmation that my decision to begin moving away from the language was the right one.
criveros 12y ago
I'm just about to start learning PHP, and I'm glad I'm doing so now.

alphadevx 12y ago

Happy that they went with UTF-8 here: http://us.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.default-charset http://us.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.default-charset Some nice improvements overall.

jsamuel 12y ago

Congrats to the PHP team. We're quite happy to see PHP 5.3 fully EOL'd recently and 5.6 now released. In trying to do our part to encourage adoption, we've already added support for 5.6 to ServerPilot (https://serverpilot.io/ https://serverpilot.io/).