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To expand on what you are talking about: The solution to the problems caused by restrictions on immigration is less restrictions on immigration. A super specia

by netsp 17y ago

To expand on what you are talking about: The solution to the problems caused by restrictions on immigration is less restrictions on immigration. A super specialised policy/visa designed to milk some of the meatiest benefits from immigration is an ugly hack.

nick-dap 17y ago
I honestly don't know if thats the case. It is not unreasonable to demand from Congress that they pass multiple legislations that address an area as complex as immigration (or healthcare for that matter). We are eagerly following the all encompassing reforms, while what we actually need is for Congress to make legislation continuously. Who would have thought that this was their job? Instead we make a big deal about big legislations and watch senators flip charts and push rhetoric while working deals behind closed doors. When advocating for manageable legislation with a whole lot of support and little floor time I've personally heard: "We cannot do it now, because we do not have the White House." "We cannot do it now because we don't have the majority in the Senate." "We cannot do it now because we dont have the 60 vote super majority." "We cannot do it now because its just not the right political atmosphere." This Fall, if health care fails, they'll have a perfect excuse not to touch immigration with a 10 foot pole. "We cannot do it now, because obviously it wouldn't pass, look at health care." My personal favorite "It takes so much political capital to pass any immigration bill that legislators need to do it all at once and then not touch it for another 20 years." Ironically, that one comes from reform advocates. My personal favorite response to that was by Robert Kerrey (a former Senator, President of New School in New York) - "I got news for you, Congress comes back every year." In geek terms. Why not iterate and see what works? What we have, obviously doesn't. Any legislation that we come up with today is almost guaranteed not to work in 5 to 10 years.
- netsp 17y ago
  What sort of legislation relating to your personal position do you think should be passed? I was simply making a more general point about restrictions on immigration. If you take in to account all effects including the immigrant, the destination and the country of origin, you get a terrible economic net loss. It is similar to restricting trade in goods and services.
  - nick-dap 17y ago
    The DREAM Act is the legislation that would help. people like me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act http://dreamact.info/ http://dreamact.info/ We need your support in pressuring legislators to action.

by netsp 17y ago

nick-dap 17y ago

I honestly don't know if thats the case. It is not unreasonable to demand from Congress that they pass multiple legislations that address an area as complex as immigration (or healthcare for that matter). We are eagerly following the all encompassing reforms, while what we actually need is for Congress to make legislation continuously. Who would have thought that this was their job? Instead we make a big deal about big legislations and watch senators flip charts and push rhetoric while working deals behind closed doors. When advocating for manageable legislation with a whole lot of support and little floor time I've personally heard: "We cannot do it now, because we do not have the White House." "We cannot do it now because we don't have the majority in the Senate." "We cannot do it now because we dont have the 60 vote super majority." "We cannot do it now because its just not the right political atmosphere." This Fall, if health care fails, they'll have a perfect excuse not to touch immigration with a 10 foot pole. "We cannot do it now, because obviously it wouldn't pass, look at health care." My personal favorite "It takes so much political capital to pass any immigration bill that legislators need to do it all at once and then not touch it for another 20 years." Ironically, that one comes from reform advocates. My personal favorite response to that was by Robert Kerrey (a former Senator, President of New School in New York) - "I got news for you, Congress comes back every year." In geek terms. Why not iterate and see what works? What we have, obviously doesn't. Any legislation that we come up with today is almost guaranteed not to work in 5 to 10 years.

netsp 17y ago
What sort of legislation relating to your personal position do you think should be passed? I was simply making a more general point about restrictions on immigration. If you take in to account all effects including the immigrant, the destination and the country of origin, you get a terrible economic net loss. It is similar to restricting trade in goods and services.
- nick-dap 17y ago
  The DREAM Act is the legislation that would help. people like me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act http://dreamact.info/ http://dreamact.info/ We need your support in pressuring legislators to action.