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Leaving Chef

36 points by sethvargo 12y ago

astrodust 12y ago
Death threats? What is going on here?
- sethvargo 12y ago
  Unfortunately some people are just mean and hateful. I think that is really what is going on. But without a way to combat that (like when you are on a lonely island), it sucks.
  - rubbsdecvik 12y ago
    It doesn't help that criticism of crappy behavior and abuse is met with cries of "Free Speech" and accusations of being too sensitive. We as a community/industry need to start calling out abusive behavior for what it is.
    - sethvargo 12y ago
      Yea. This comment was especially hurtful to me: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2equq9/leaving_chef/ http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2equq9/leaving_che.... The problem with most FOSS is that there's no mechanism for calling out said people, and there's little or no punitive action that can be taken. Sure, you can block someone on GitHub, but that only causes more drama (trust me, I know). I would love to find a solution. I'm all ears.
jason_slack 12y ago
Wow, death threats. What is this world coming to? How does something like evangelism get escalated like this? Seth, I hope your sabbatical gives you a buffer from this abuse.
- sethvargo 12y ago
  Yea :/. It makes me fearful for the future honestly. Not just for my personal safety, but for our industry. Thank you for reading and commenting.
- DanBC 12y ago
  Online death threats are very common. The numbers are a bit confusing but English police recieve a lot of calls about this kind of stuff: https://fullfact.org/crime/college_policing_bbc_correction_article_social_media_half-33333 https://fullfact.org/crime/college_policing_bbc_correction_a... http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27949674 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27949674 "social media 'at least half' of calls passed to frontline police". I'm not trying to suggest that toxic online comments are acceptable; or that people who are the targets of such comments should just ignore them.
  - sethvargo 12y ago
    Those numbers (while confusing) definitely sadden me. While I don't fathom the absolute values, it is clear that the trend is upward :(. This is especially concerning because it increases the signal-to-noise ratio and makes it difficult for police to response. It's like the boy who cried wolf.
rjocoleman 12y ago
Seth, I've been using Chef for a few years and your tools and those I see you contributing to have been a massive help. Your all around enthusiasm for the community (and product) is inspirational. Thank you so much for all your efforts. Thanks also to all the like minded people maintaining and contributing to other projects that make the Chef community so rich.
- sethvargo 12y ago
  Thank you!

Leaving Chef

36 points by sethvargo 12y ago

astrodust 12y ago

Death threats? What is going on here?

sethvargo 12y ago
Unfortunately some people are just mean and hateful. I think that is really what is going on. But without a way to combat that (like when you are on a lonely island), it sucks.
- rubbsdecvik 12y ago
  It doesn't help that criticism of crappy behavior and abuse is met with cries of "Free Speech" and accusations of being too sensitive. We as a community/industry need to start calling out abusive behavior for what it is.
  - sethvargo 12y ago
    Yea. This comment was especially hurtful to me: http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2equq9/leaving_chef/ http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/2equq9/leaving_che.... The problem with most FOSS is that there's no mechanism for calling out said people, and there's little or no punitive action that can be taken. Sure, you can block someone on GitHub, but that only causes more drama (trust me, I know). I would love to find a solution. I'm all ears.

jason_slack 12y ago

Wow, death threats. What is this world coming to? How does something like evangelism get escalated like this? Seth, I hope your sabbatical gives you a buffer from this abuse.

sethvargo 12y ago
Yea :/. It makes me fearful for the future honestly. Not just for my personal safety, but for our industry. Thank you for reading and commenting.
DanBC 12y ago
Online death threats are very common. The numbers are a bit confusing but English police recieve a lot of calls about this kind of stuff: https://fullfact.org/crime/college_policing_bbc_correction_article_social_media_half-33333 https://fullfact.org/crime/college_policing_bbc_correction_a... http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27949674 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27949674 "social media 'at least half' of calls passed to frontline police". I'm not trying to suggest that toxic online comments are acceptable; or that people who are the targets of such comments should just ignore them.
- sethvargo 12y ago
  Those numbers (while confusing) definitely sadden me. While I don't fathom the absolute values, it is clear that the trend is upward :(. This is especially concerning because it increases the signal-to-noise ratio and makes it difficult for police to response. It's like the boy who cried wolf.

rjocoleman 12y ago

Seth, I've been using Chef for a few years and your tools and those I see you contributing to have been a massive help. Your all around enthusiasm for the community (and product) is inspirational. Thank you so much for all your efforts. Thanks also to all the like minded people maintaining and contributing to other projects that make the Chef community so rich.

sethvargo 12y ago
Thank you!