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Kato.im Launches Kato Teams, a Free Chat Platform for Businesses

49 points by petrohi 12y ago

daigoba66 12y ago
So the only differentiator is that you can tile multiple chat windows? Of course I haven't tried it yet, but that feels like it would be overwhelming.
- hyphyphyph 12y ago
  That was my initial concern, but I've been chatting with a couple friends to try it out, as well as chatting with the founder. As it turns out, it's not confusing at all. It's a really FUN app to use. And the Vim-like keybindings are amazing. I'm in love with a cat.
- rekoros 12y ago
  That, and vim-like keyboard shortcuts (https://kato.im/articles/keyboard-control/ https://kato.im/articles/keyboard-control/) And ability to use the same account to work with multiple teams at the same time. Also markdown support.
- chermanowicz 12y ago
  Also cross-org communication. If you're not into chatting with external parties, then think about how you would otherwise connect teams in a 500+ person company. I've tried a lot of tools but couldn't find anything that works when companies scale in size.
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rubyrescue 12y ago
I know Andrei and have been following him and the team since they started. Great service. Incidentally they're an Erlang shop that uses release upgrades to do seamless code deploys without losing a chat session. Impressive.
donniezazen 12y ago
Generally speaking it never ceases to amaze me how many of these chat platforms are but often they tend not to be compatible to XMPP protocol.
- rekoros 12y ago
  We built Kato from product down, trying to avoid protocol-driven pitfalls. We'll add an integration sooner than later.
  - donniezazen 12y ago
    Cool it would be nice to be able to connect your own XMPP server.
statico 12y ago
Great job, Andrei and Peter!
halcyondaze 12y ago
Question: Why are there so many new chat platforms coming out? Isn't this problem pretty well figured out by now?
- rekoros 12y ago
  Nah. People still live in email.
  - hobarrera 12y ago
    IM and email are different things. People still use email because IM is not meant to replace it.
    - Ecio78 12y ago
      We use both because both have reason to exist. Since I started working in a multinational company spread across different sites (and continents) I have appreciated both approaches: sometimes the chat is a quick way to ask something, to verify that something is working etc.. compared to mail (that is not always seen "in time") or using the phone (as a bonus points, IMHO for non-english speakers it is easier to chat than to talk...)
    - rekoros 12y ago
      I think IM is a bit of a misnomer when applied to products like Kato. Persistence, sync across devices, and instant search make it a lot more like "multi-person, temporally-organized Evernote, with real-time feedback", which is closer to replacing email than IM. For what it's worth, the Kato team so far hasn't sent a single internal email over the history of the company. (We're distributed across ~15 cities.)

49 points by petrohi 12y ago

So the only differentiator is that you can tile multiple chat windows? Of course I haven't tried it yet, but that feels like it would be overwhelming.

hyphyphyph 12y ago
That was my initial concern, but I've been chatting with a couple friends to try it out, as well as chatting with the founder. As it turns out, it's not confusing at all. It's a really FUN app to use. And the Vim-like keybindings are amazing. I'm in love with a cat.
rekoros 12y ago
That, and vim-like keyboard shortcuts (https://kato.im/articles/keyboard-control/ https://kato.im/articles/keyboard-control/) And ability to use the same account to work with multiple teams at the same time. Also markdown support.
chermanowicz 12y ago
Also cross-org communication. If you're not into chatting with external parties, then think about how you would otherwise connect teams in a 500+ person company. I've tried a lot of tools but couldn't find anything that works when companies scale in size.

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rubyrescue 12y ago

I know Andrei and have been following him and the team since they started. Great service. Incidentally they're an Erlang shop that uses release upgrades to do seamless code deploys without losing a chat session. Impressive.

donniezazen 12y ago

Generally speaking it never ceases to amaze me how many of these chat platforms are but often they tend not to be compatible to XMPP protocol.

rekoros 12y ago
We built Kato from product down, trying to avoid protocol-driven pitfalls. We'll add an integration sooner than later.
- donniezazen 12y ago
  Cool it would be nice to be able to connect your own XMPP server.

statico 12y ago

Great job, Andrei and Peter!

halcyondaze 12y ago

Question: Why are there so many new chat platforms coming out? Isn't this problem pretty well figured out by now?

rekoros 12y ago
Nah. People still live in email.
- hobarrera 12y ago
  IM and email are different things. People still use email because IM is not meant to replace it.
  - Ecio78 12y ago
    We use both because both have reason to exist. Since I started working in a multinational company spread across different sites (and continents) I have appreciated both approaches: sometimes the chat is a quick way to ask something, to verify that something is working etc.. compared to mail (that is not always seen "in time") or using the phone (as a bonus points, IMHO for non-english speakers it is easier to chat than to talk...)
  - rekoros 12y ago
    I think IM is a bit of a misnomer when applied to products like Kato. Persistence, sync across devices, and instant search make it a lot more like "multi-person, temporally-organized Evernote, with real-time feedback", which is closer to replacing email than IM. For what it's worth, the Kato team so far hasn't sent a single internal email over the history of the company. (We're distributed across ~15 cities.)