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> There is nothing "Sublime-like" about a sidebar, TextMate had this earlier, other editors too. I don't understand why every discussion like this devolves int

> There is nothing "Sublime-like" about a sidebar, TextMate had this earlier, other editors too. I don't understand why every discussion like this devolves into a discussion over who did something first. It's completely irrelevant to the point. The quote you pulled says nothing about Sublime being the only editor to have a sidebar, or Sublime being the first editor to have a sidebar. It says that Sublime has a file sidebar, and this project has a file sidebar that is like Sublime. That is pretty basic statement of fact, your comments about other editors having sidebars is a complete non sequitur.

kstenerud 12y ago
Hear, hear! I tried desperately to suppress my "Shut the hell up you whiney bitch" response, but, alas, I have failed to do so in this case.
mwfunk 12y ago
The "who did it first" stuff is always one of the most aggravating tangents in tech forum discussions. I truly just do not get it. Sometimes it's people reminiscing about computer history, which I usually enjoy, but most of the time it's someone who just wants to crap on whatever the thing being discussed is. It's a less downvotable way of saying, "I think this thing you just wrote is stupid, and my token excuse for saying this is because someone else did it before you, so nyah nyah nyah". The canonical example IMO is the development of the modern GUI: in the '90s, people who liked to argue about dumb stuff would say that Windows is crap because it was "just a reimplementation" of Mac OS; this was usually followed up by some equally stupid argument from someone else about how the Mac was stupid because it was "just a reimplementation" of the Xerox Alto, and I'm sure that would be followed up by some primordial neckbeard claiming that the Xerox Alto was a steaming pile because it just a reimplementation of ENIAC with better graphics. Also: GNU/Linux.
mcmancini 12y ago
Thinking of it from the point of view of an academic, one generally credits the first to discover/build/describe/do something. It's part of placing things into context, which is an important element of academic discourse. Wearing the academic hat, when I read something that fails to credit The First and instead credits someone else I think to myself, "this person is uninformed and doesn't really understand X..."

kstenerud 12y ago

Hear, hear! I tried desperately to suppress my "Shut the hell up you whiney bitch" response, but, alas, I have failed to do so in this case.

mwfunk 12y ago

The "who did it first" stuff is always one of the most aggravating tangents in tech forum discussions. I truly just do not get it. Sometimes it's people reminiscing about computer history, which I usually enjoy, but most of the time it's someone who just wants to crap on whatever the thing being discussed is. It's a less downvotable way of saying, "I think this thing you just wrote is stupid, and my token excuse for saying this is because someone else did it before you, so nyah nyah nyah". The canonical example IMO is the development of the modern GUI: in the '90s, people who liked to argue about dumb stuff would say that Windows is crap because it was "just a reimplementation" of Mac OS; this was usually followed up by some equally stupid argument from someone else about how the Mac was stupid because it was "just a reimplementation" of the Xerox Alto, and I'm sure that would be followed up by some primordial neckbeard claiming that the Xerox Alto was a steaming pile because it just a reimplementation of ENIAC with better graphics. Also: GNU/Linux.

mcmancini 12y ago

Thinking of it from the point of view of an academic, one generally credits the first to discover/build/describe/do something. It's part of placing things into context, which is an important element of academic discourse. Wearing the academic hat, when I read something that fails to credit The First and instead credits someone else I think to myself, "this person is uninformed and doesn't really understand X..."