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I wonder what effect this will have on ryanair ticket prices? As I understand it the tickets themselves are not profitable, it's the extras.

by jiggy2011 12y ago

tim333 12y ago
Ryanair have been moving back towards clear pricing. I guess it will be more like flight £25 rather than flight 99p, charges £24.
Vespasian 12y ago
Honestly I hope they will finally have to label them correctly. When I booked flights to Dublin recently, I felt being cheated on even though I checked everything twice and googled some. The insurance trick is among the worst practices I had to encounter personally. I'd prefer to have the official prices being hones even if they are somewhat higher. Their business model of offering only the minimal thing should work nevertheless and laws like that does not forbid them to offer extras which many people would choose nevertheless.
- mikestew 12y ago
  > When I booked flights to Dublin recently, I felt being cheated on even though I checked everything twice and googled some. Why on earth would you do business with a company that makes you "<feel> cheated"? RyanAir ran off all of the other airlines? They had the only flight to Dublin to see your poor, sick mother? Flights so cheap that you're willing to put up with the bullshit? It's an honest question, and I've heard some answer it with "they're so cheap, I'm willing to put up with dealing with weasels." But it sounds like the whole weasel-dealing thing isn't for you. One of the reasons I fly SouthWest, even when they're not the cheapest or most convenient, is because I don't feel like I need to watch my back when dealing with them.
  - icelancer 12y ago
    > Why on earth would you do business with a company that makes you "<feel> cheated"? Because everyone bitches about them but everyone still uses them, since after all, they are the cheapest. They just like to hurl rocks from the top of the mountain without actually doing anything productive about it - i.e. taking their money elsewhere.
    - oditogre 12y ago
      Yup, same as WalMart, hehe. They're awful and evil and rahrahrah, but at 1am on Sunday when everywhere else is closed, they'll sell you a loaf of bread, electric drill, computer monitor, a case of beer, and new underwear, and they'll do it at a lower price than any other store in town. So people hate it, but they still go there.
  - rmc 12y ago
    > Flights so cheap that you're willing to put up with the bullshit? Yes. I've taken ~100 Ryanair flights. It's a bus service. Buses are crap too. Ryanair, like busses, are cheap.
  - Vespasian 12y ago
    Yep the main reason here is them being cheap. I did travel with some people who really had to save up for this so cheap flight + cheap stay it was :)
raverbashing 12y ago
A lot of extras are sold on the plane or at checkin (like 60EUR for a boarding pass) That's why I never fly with them. Too much BS to waddle through.
- nodata 12y ago
  What's the 60 EUR for? Printing your boarding pass?
  - seiji 12y ago
    They updated it last year: "Starting December 2013, boarding card reissue fees will be cut from €70 or £70 to €15 or £15." You can see their fee schedule at: http://www.ryanair.com/en/fees/ http://www.ryanair.com/en/fees/ — yes, they charge a fee to even assign you a seat. (Anecdote: I had a printed boarding pass all crumpled up at the bottom of my bag (they let you check in weeks before your flight, so it had to survive for a while) and my poorly kept pass was basically unreadable by their scanners. The baggage check rep printed a new boarding pass for free (without even asking, since she couldn't exactly scan my home printed and crumpled paper)).
    - Someone1234 12y ago
      > yes, they charge a fee to even assign you a seat. Everyone does that now. Delta, BA, AA, Virgin, etc. I can think of very few airlines that give you free seat selection before check-in. I don't agree with it, but it is the way things have gone for all airlines. Just like baggage fees on local flights (even though that causes mass delays during boarding since now everyone is trying to show too much into cramp overhead lockers).
      - MichaelGG 12y ago
        United doesn't. And it's not listed as an elite benefit so I'd guess it applies to everyone.
      - arjie 12y ago
rmc 12y ago
Ryanair switched "credit card fee" to "booking fee" ages ago.
ars 12y ago
> I wonder what effect this will have on ryanair ticket prices? Prices will go up. No question about it. Since they are making less profit elsewhere they have to make it up. It's like how when the US passed the Credit CARD Act prices went up on credit cards, and it was harder to get low cost cards for those people who were already able to avoid the add-on fees.
dzhiurgis 12y ago
I guess that depends where you fly. In some Eastern European countries Ryanair has pushed out local carriers and now has a monopoly with ridiculous prices.

I wonder what effect this will have on ryanair ticket prices? As I understand it the tickets themselves are not profitable, it's the extras.

tim333 12y ago

Ryanair have been moving back towards clear pricing. I guess it will be more like flight £25 rather than flight 99p, charges £24.

Vespasian 12y ago

Honestly I hope they will finally have to label them correctly. When I booked flights to Dublin recently, I felt being cheated on even though I checked everything twice and googled some. The insurance trick is among the worst practices I had to encounter personally. I'd prefer to have the official prices being hones even if they are somewhat higher. Their business model of offering only the minimal thing should work nevertheless and laws like that does not forbid them to offer extras which many people would choose nevertheless.

mikestew 12y ago
> When I booked flights to Dublin recently, I felt being cheated on even though I checked everything twice and googled some. Why on earth would you do business with a company that makes you "<feel> cheated"? RyanAir ran off all of the other airlines? They had the only flight to Dublin to see your poor, sick mother? Flights so cheap that you're willing to put up with the bullshit? It's an honest question, and I've heard some answer it with "they're so cheap, I'm willing to put up with dealing with weasels." But it sounds like the whole weasel-dealing thing isn't for you. One of the reasons I fly SouthWest, even when they're not the cheapest or most convenient, is because I don't feel like I need to watch my back when dealing with them.
- icelancer 12y ago
  > Why on earth would you do business with a company that makes you "<feel> cheated"? Because everyone bitches about them but everyone still uses them, since after all, they are the cheapest. They just like to hurl rocks from the top of the mountain without actually doing anything productive about it - i.e. taking their money elsewhere.
  - oditogre 12y ago
    Yup, same as WalMart, hehe. They're awful and evil and rahrahrah, but at 1am on Sunday when everywhere else is closed, they'll sell you a loaf of bread, electric drill, computer monitor, a case of beer, and new underwear, and they'll do it at a lower price than any other store in town. So people hate it, but they still go there.
- rmc 12y ago
  > Flights so cheap that you're willing to put up with the bullshit? Yes. I've taken ~100 Ryanair flights. It's a bus service. Buses are crap too. Ryanair, like busses, are cheap.
- Vespasian 12y ago
  Yep the main reason here is them being cheap. I did travel with some people who really had to save up for this so cheap flight + cheap stay it was :)

raverbashing 12y ago

A lot of extras are sold on the plane or at checkin (like 60EUR for a boarding pass) That's why I never fly with them. Too much BS to waddle through.

nodata 12y ago
What's the 60 EUR for? Printing your boarding pass?
- seiji 12y ago
  They updated it last year: "Starting December 2013, boarding card reissue fees will be cut from €70 or £70 to €15 or £15." You can see their fee schedule at: http://www.ryanair.com/en/fees/ http://www.ryanair.com/en/fees/ — yes, they charge a fee to even assign you a seat. (Anecdote: I had a printed boarding pass all crumpled up at the bottom of my bag (they let you check in weeks before your flight, so it had to survive for a while) and my poorly kept pass was basically unreadable by their scanners. The baggage check rep printed a new boarding pass for free (without even asking, since she couldn't exactly scan my home printed and crumpled paper)).
  - Someone1234 12y ago
    > yes, they charge a fee to even assign you a seat. Everyone does that now. Delta, BA, AA, Virgin, etc. I can think of very few airlines that give you free seat selection before check-in. I don't agree with it, but it is the way things have gone for all airlines. Just like baggage fees on local flights (even though that causes mass delays during boarding since now everyone is trying to show too much into cramp overhead lockers).
    - MichaelGG 12y ago
      United doesn't. And it's not listed as an elite benefit so I'd guess it applies to everyone.
    - arjie 12y ago

rmc 12y ago

Ryanair switched "credit card fee" to "booking fee" ages ago.

ars 12y ago

> I wonder what effect this will have on ryanair ticket prices? Prices will go up. No question about it. Since they are making less profit elsewhere they have to make it up. It's like how when the US passed the Credit CARD Act prices went up on credit cards, and it was harder to get low cost cards for those people who were already able to avoid the add-on fees.

dzhiurgis 12y ago

I guess that depends where you fly. In some Eastern European countries Ryanair has pushed out local carriers and now has a monopoly with ridiculous prices.