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Yes. They are. However, the IWC resolution to ban whaling is not binding. It's advisory and in my opinion not based on facts but feelings.

by perbu 12y ago

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- jonpacker 12y ago
  Minke whales are not in any way endangered (or close to it). Check your facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minke_whale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minke_whale
  - tomelders 12y ago
    Yet. I take the view that the human race should only be harvesting things it really needs. The case for whaling (that I'm aware of) seems pretty weak. And if Norway did sign up to protect marine wildlife in exchange for oil rights (I'm taking that at face value at the moment) then it does seem like a jerk move to take the oil and not protect the whales.
    - eropple 12y ago
      "Protect marine wildlife" is not the same thing as "ban harvesting of a species that is not endangered."
      - tomelders 12y ago
        This is where we part company. My belief is that they are. It is my view that the end result of "protecting wildlife" should be that the wildlife flourishes.
- sgt 12y ago
  Whaling is a tradition in Norway and has been going on since medieval times. More information: http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/mammals/whales/whaling/#.U_x-iFOSzR0 http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/... In my view, whalers are decent people - they generally aren't "jerks". You probably have never even talked to nor met any one of them. I understand your point that hunting and farming of animals in general is not good, but it's a pretty hard habit to break. This is how the world works at this time - people hunt all sort of animals whether it's ethically right or not. Also remember that of all the meat produced in this world, whale meat is but a tiny fraction of it, so perhaps spend more of your time protesting the way fish is treated (which is also a valid concern).
  - hkarthik 12y ago
    > Whaling is a tradition in Norway and has been going on since medieval times. Jumping in a longboat and pillaging neighboring villages was also a Norwegian tradition in medieval times, but we find such practices barbaric today.
    - 67726e 12y ago
      Eh, depends on how you frame it. Is a troop transport taking US forces over to Iraq barbaric? Depends on who you ask.
      - hkarthik 12y ago
        Absolutely, I'm not claiming the US doesn't participate in forms of barbarism. We had a completely different set of unjustified justifications for the Iraq invasion, but we didn't use tradition as the excuse.
  - mullingitover 12y ago
    > Whaling is a tradition in Norway and has been going on since medieval times. Eh, but back in medieval times it was a fair fight--no sonar, no diesel engines, no grenade-tipped harpoons, and as a bonus, there was actually a legitimate need to do this. The whaling now is done by people with money, in order to earn more money. Nothing more.
- sleepyhead 12y ago
  If you write "Fact" you really should produce facts. * The whales that we in Norway hunt are not endangered. * Norway is not the richest country in the world. Also no need to call anyone jerks. Here is some more info: http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/mammals/whales/whaling/#.U_yMDEvHOZw http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/...

Yes. They are. However, the IWC resolution to ban whaling is not binding. It's advisory and in my opinion not based on facts but feelings.

by perbu 12y ago

Yes. They are. However, the IWC resolution to ban whaling is not binding. It's advisory and in my opinion not based on facts but feelings.

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jonpacker 12y ago
Minke whales are not in any way endangered (or close to it). Check your facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minke_whale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minke_whale
- tomelders 12y ago
  Yet. I take the view that the human race should only be harvesting things it really needs. The case for whaling (that I'm aware of) seems pretty weak. And if Norway did sign up to protect marine wildlife in exchange for oil rights (I'm taking that at face value at the moment) then it does seem like a jerk move to take the oil and not protect the whales.
  - eropple 12y ago
    "Protect marine wildlife" is not the same thing as "ban harvesting of a species that is not endangered."
    - tomelders 12y ago
      This is where we part company. My belief is that they are. It is my view that the end result of "protecting wildlife" should be that the wildlife flourishes.
sgt 12y ago
Whaling is a tradition in Norway and has been going on since medieval times. More information: http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/mammals/whales/whaling/#.U_x-iFOSzR0 http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/... In my view, whalers are decent people - they generally aren't "jerks". You probably have never even talked to nor met any one of them. I understand your point that hunting and farming of animals in general is not good, but it's a pretty hard habit to break. This is how the world works at this time - people hunt all sort of animals whether it's ethically right or not. Also remember that of all the meat produced in this world, whale meat is but a tiny fraction of it, so perhaps spend more of your time protesting the way fish is treated (which is also a valid concern).
- hkarthik 12y ago
  > Whaling is a tradition in Norway and has been going on since medieval times. Jumping in a longboat and pillaging neighboring villages was also a Norwegian tradition in medieval times, but we find such practices barbaric today.
  - 67726e 12y ago
    Eh, depends on how you frame it. Is a troop transport taking US forces over to Iraq barbaric? Depends on who you ask.
    - hkarthik 12y ago
      Absolutely, I'm not claiming the US doesn't participate in forms of barbarism. We had a completely different set of unjustified justifications for the Iraq invasion, but we didn't use tradition as the excuse.
- mullingitover 12y ago
  > Whaling is a tradition in Norway and has been going on since medieval times. Eh, but back in medieval times it was a fair fight--no sonar, no diesel engines, no grenade-tipped harpoons, and as a bonus, there was actually a legitimate need to do this. The whaling now is done by people with money, in order to earn more money. Nothing more.
sleepyhead 12y ago
If you write "Fact" you really should produce facts. * The whales that we in Norway hunt are not endangered. * Norway is not the richest country in the world. Also no need to call anyone jerks. Here is some more info: http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/mammals/whales/whaling/#.U_yMDEvHOZw http://www.fisheries.no/ecosystems-and-stocks/marine_stocks/...