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C'mon man. Norway's the #1 importer of Teslas [1] Otherwise, man I wish Canada would manage our oil money like Norway. But we burned that bridge a long time ag

by elchief 12y ago

C'mon man. Norway's the #1 importer of Teslas [1] Otherwise, man I wish Canada would manage our oil money like Norway. But we burned that bridge a long time ago. [1] look it up

seszett 12y ago
Well, it's not really Canada that has oil, it's more like just Alberta isn't it? Norway is a unitary state while Canada is very federal.
- fleitz 12y ago
  Alberta has almost as much oil as Saudi Arabia, but the rest of Canada has more moderate reserves similar to those in the US. There's also the Hibernia field with the largest oil platform in the world.
- _delirium 12y ago
  Mostly Alberta, but also other places, especially given that many provinces have smallish populations, so it doesn't take a lot of oil to be a large part of the economy. British Columbia, for example, has 4.6 million people and produces 20k barrels/day of oil, which is more per capita than Texas (even after the recent jump in Texas's production). But it's not as economy-dominating as in Alaska, Norway, or Alberta.
Expez 12y ago
The Tesla isn't priced as a luxury car in Norway. Electric vehicles are exempt from taxes and fees, which is mostly where the money goes when you buy a more traditional vehicle. They also don't pay anything when passing toll booths, IIRC. Where I grew up, people now pay ~$10 just to pass toll booths to and from work every day. There are other benefits as well, like free parking, Tesla's free charging station--and most importantly for many--you get to drive in the lane reserved for buses and taxis instead of dealing with traffic to and from work.
- calibwam 12y ago
  The last benefit actually is starting to become a problem, since so many people have gotten Teslas. There's a lot of traffic in the bus lane, as electric cars, buses and taxis fight for the same spaces.
  - scrollaway 12y ago
    I suppose it will eventually be taken away. It's a nice temporary incentive but it obviously cannot scale.
    - eloisant 12y ago
      Just like California is issuing very few carpool stickers for hybrid cars. It's like a lottery that bumps the value of your cars 5 grand up.
- Veinlash 12y ago
  All of this is indeed correct. People here don't buy Teslas or other electronic cars because of the environment. Most do it for the economical reasons listed above [1]. However there has been a lot of discussion recently about whether these economical advantages are here to stay. Currently the electric cars are clogging up the bus/taxi lanes and the government is losing money as a result of the electric car boom we've seen here recently [2]. It will certainly be interesting to see what removing the advantages will do to the electric car market in Norway. [1]: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firiks%2FFolk-flest-kjorer-ikke-elbil-for-a-spare-miljoet-7522953.html&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev... [2]: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firiks%2Fpolitikk%2FApner-for-a-kaste-ut-elbilene-av-kollektivfelt-7666860.html https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=h...
  - maaaats 12y ago
    The clogging of the bus lanes because of electric cars is mostly wrong. It's been a lot in the news, but no one has proven it. They all just point to the correlation of more electric cars in the lanes. Not the correlation with more traffic in general. The clogging happens because every car wanting to get on or leave the highway has to cross the bus lane. It's easy to see for yourself.

by elchief 12y ago

C'mon man. Norway's the #1 importer of Teslas [1] Otherwise, man I wish Canada would manage our oil money like Norway. But we burned that bridge a long time ago. [1] look it up

seszett 12y ago

Well, it's not really Canada that has oil, it's more like just Alberta isn't it? Norway is a unitary state while Canada is very federal.

fleitz 12y ago
Alberta has almost as much oil as Saudi Arabia, but the rest of Canada has more moderate reserves similar to those in the US. There's also the Hibernia field with the largest oil platform in the world.
_delirium 12y ago
Mostly Alberta, but also other places, especially given that many provinces have smallish populations, so it doesn't take a lot of oil to be a large part of the economy. British Columbia, for example, has 4.6 million people and produces 20k barrels/day of oil, which is more per capita than Texas (even after the recent jump in Texas's production). But it's not as economy-dominating as in Alaska, Norway, or Alberta.

Expez 12y ago

The Tesla isn't priced as a luxury car in Norway. Electric vehicles are exempt from taxes and fees, which is mostly where the money goes when you buy a more traditional vehicle. They also don't pay anything when passing toll booths, IIRC. Where I grew up, people now pay ~$10 just to pass toll booths to and from work every day. There are other benefits as well, like free parking, Tesla's free charging station--and most importantly for many--you get to drive in the lane reserved for buses and taxis instead of dealing with traffic to and from work.

calibwam 12y ago
The last benefit actually is starting to become a problem, since so many people have gotten Teslas. There's a lot of traffic in the bus lane, as electric cars, buses and taxis fight for the same spaces.
- scrollaway 12y ago
  I suppose it will eventually be taken away. It's a nice temporary incentive but it obviously cannot scale.
  - eloisant 12y ago
    Just like California is issuing very few carpool stickers for hybrid cars. It's like a lottery that bumps the value of your cars 5 grand up.
Veinlash 12y ago
All of this is indeed correct. People here don't buy Teslas or other electronic cars because of the environment. Most do it for the economical reasons listed above [1]. However there has been a lot of discussion recently about whether these economical advantages are here to stay. Currently the electric cars are clogging up the bus/taxi lanes and the government is losing money as a result of the electric car boom we've seen here recently [2]. It will certainly be interesting to see what removing the advantages will do to the electric car market in Norway. [1]: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firiks%2FFolk-flest-kjorer-ikke-elbil-for-a-spare-miljoet-7522953.html&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev... [2]: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firiks%2Fpolitikk%2FApner-for-a-kaste-ut-elbilene-av-kollektivfelt-7666860.html https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=h...
- maaaats 12y ago
  The clogging of the bus lanes because of electric cars is mostly wrong. It's been a lot in the news, but no one has proven it. They all just point to the correlation of more electric cars in the lanes. Not the correlation with more traffic in general. The clogging happens because every car wanting to get on or leave the highway has to cross the bus lane. It's easy to see for yourself.