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I'm amazed how much of editing he actually does by hand (like growing/shrinking indentation) and mouse. That sort of switching between actual coding and lexical

by yason 12y ago

I'm amazed how much of editing he actually does by hand (like growing/shrinking indentation) and mouse. That sort of switching between actual coding and lexical editing would kill my flow.

elwell 12y ago
Yeah, he's switching eclipse tabs by using the mouse! Another reminder to not obsess over development tool choice, and just get things done.
- tosh 12y ago
  I think I spend most of my time reading, navigating and debugging code. IDE developers should do more heavy lifting to support these use-cases imho. I really like what the SourceGraph people are doing (https://sourcegraph.com/ https://sourcegraph.com/)
- smrtinsert 12y ago
  Control PageUp/PageDown!
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spain 12y ago
I'm watching now and it doesn't seem that bad, sure he switches tabs with the mouse but it seems like he is using quite a lot of keyboard shortcuts otherwise. I'd almost wager he has a plugin to emulate vim or emacs keybinds, seeing as he's moving the cursor forward by words and jumping around the code a lot without using the mouse at all.
- swah 12y ago
  By the powerful sound of the keystroke when moving words, I'd say he is using Ctrl+<Arrows>. That is very common in Windows. BTW I'm not able to switch between OSX and Windows (home & work) efficiently - Windows' shortcuts are so much easier on my hands. Is there any way people make the two OSes more similar?
  - spain 12y ago
    I know on Windows you can use AutoHotkey[0] to recreate all your OS X keybindings, but I'm not sure about recreating Windows binds on OS X. [0] http://www.autohotkey.com/ http://www.autohotkey.com/
  - icoder 12y ago
    I come from windows and now use a Mac (iOS dev). I was so used to all windows shortcuts (shift+ctrl+keyright to select a word, ctrl+c to copy, etc), I know what you mean! I use KeyRemap4MacBook, which kicks in as soon as I connect my hardware windows keyboard to it (which is basically always when I sit down to code). It has a lot of default windows compatibility settings, but you can customize at will. I added a few myself by hand as well (also to get desktop switching the same as I was used to from Ubuntu :).
    - swah 12y ago
      Thanks for this. If I can map C-v, C-c, C-t, C-w, Shift-home, Shift-end... I should capture a good portion of my misses :)
ChrisClark 12y ago
My flow has always been a mixture of keyboard and mouse. Even as far back as RHIDE with DJGPP. I basically program with 90% thought, 10% code. So a faster interface doesn't change much for me.
drewolbrich 12y ago
If you're noticing the same thing I did, he's doing that because he's working on OpenGL shader code that's embedded in a string inside his Dart code. In this case, the IDE only sees a plain vanilla string, so Notch has to indent the GLSL manually.

by yason 12y ago

I'm amazed how much of editing he actually does by hand (like growing/shrinking indentation) and mouse. That sort of switching between actual coding and lexical editing would kill my flow.

elwell 12y ago

Yeah, he's switching eclipse tabs by using the mouse! Another reminder to not obsess over development tool choice, and just get things done.

tosh 12y ago
I think I spend most of my time reading, navigating and debugging code. IDE developers should do more heavy lifting to support these use-cases imho. I really like what the SourceGraph people are doing (https://sourcegraph.com/ https://sourcegraph.com/)
smrtinsert 12y ago
Control PageUp/PageDown!

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spain 12y ago

I'm watching now and it doesn't seem that bad, sure he switches tabs with the mouse but it seems like he is using quite a lot of keyboard shortcuts otherwise. I'd almost wager he has a plugin to emulate vim or emacs keybinds, seeing as he's moving the cursor forward by words and jumping around the code a lot without using the mouse at all.

swah 12y ago
By the powerful sound of the keystroke when moving words, I'd say he is using Ctrl+<Arrows>. That is very common in Windows. BTW I'm not able to switch between OSX and Windows (home & work) efficiently - Windows' shortcuts are so much easier on my hands. Is there any way people make the two OSes more similar?
- spain 12y ago
  I know on Windows you can use AutoHotkey[0] to recreate all your OS X keybindings, but I'm not sure about recreating Windows binds on OS X. [0] http://www.autohotkey.com/ http://www.autohotkey.com/
- icoder 12y ago
  I come from windows and now use a Mac (iOS dev). I was so used to all windows shortcuts (shift+ctrl+keyright to select a word, ctrl+c to copy, etc), I know what you mean! I use KeyRemap4MacBook, which kicks in as soon as I connect my hardware windows keyboard to it (which is basically always when I sit down to code). It has a lot of default windows compatibility settings, but you can customize at will. I added a few myself by hand as well (also to get desktop switching the same as I was used to from Ubuntu :).
  - swah 12y ago
    Thanks for this. If I can map C-v, C-c, C-t, C-w, Shift-home, Shift-end... I should capture a good portion of my misses :)

ChrisClark 12y ago

My flow has always been a mixture of keyboard and mouse. Even as far back as RHIDE with DJGPP. I basically program with 90% thought, 10% code. So a faster interface doesn't change much for me.

drewolbrich 12y ago

If you're noticing the same thing I did, he's doing that because he's working on OpenGL shader code that's embedded in a string inside his Dart code. In this case, the IDE only sees a plain vanilla string, so Notch has to indent the GLSL manually.