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More of an observation than anything, but Docker certainly has the corporate-ese marketing speak down pat. Much more so than most other "hot" OSS/platforms. Why

More of an observation than anything, but Docker certainly has the corporate-ese marketing speak down pat. Much more so than most other "hot" OSS/platforms. Why such a different culture? Or are they just trying to climb into VMWare's bed?

superuser2 12y ago
Docker is more useful to people with more services to containerize, and that often means enterprise. To your average start-up with at most a couple of Rails apps, it's not nearly as much of a value-add.
- markbnj 12y ago
  Don't really agree with this. Being able to configure a new instance quickly and easily is useful no matter how large you are. For that matter, so is being able to spin up an isolated environment on a dev box as fast as you can start an editor.
  - frostmatthew 12y ago
    > Being able to configure a new instance quickly and easily is useful no matter how large you are. The comment you're replying to didn't say it wasn't useful for the "average start-up with at most a couple of Rails apps" - it said it's less useful ("not nearly as much of a value-add") compared to a large enterprise. When your entire environment runs on half a dozen VMs you have much less to gain by faster/easier provisioning then when you're running tens of thousands.
- drcode 12y ago
  > your average start-up with at most a couple of Rails apps DOESN'T REALIZE THE VALUE-ADD YET. FTFY.
simonpantzare 12y ago
I think Ben Golub plays a part in that. As superuser2 says, enterprises make up a large chunk of Docker's market. Github is also tapping into this segment—most of their recent hires are extensions to their enterprise support, sales, and account management teams.
lobster_johnson 12y ago
Docker has professional sales and marketing staff. Most open source projects don't because they aren't really businesses. ElasticSearch is a billion-dollar company; then there's Pivotal, Basho, Github, Mozilla etc., all organizations that have managed not just to become popular open-source projects, but profitable companies. Docker themselves raised $15m recently.

superuser2 12y ago

Docker is more useful to people with more services to containerize, and that often means enterprise. To your average start-up with at most a couple of Rails apps, it's not nearly as much of a value-add.

markbnj 12y ago
Don't really agree with this. Being able to configure a new instance quickly and easily is useful no matter how large you are. For that matter, so is being able to spin up an isolated environment on a dev box as fast as you can start an editor.
- frostmatthew 12y ago
  > Being able to configure a new instance quickly and easily is useful no matter how large you are. The comment you're replying to didn't say it wasn't useful for the "average start-up with at most a couple of Rails apps" - it said it's less useful ("not nearly as much of a value-add") compared to a large enterprise. When your entire environment runs on half a dozen VMs you have much less to gain by faster/easier provisioning then when you're running tens of thousands.
drcode 12y ago
> your average start-up with at most a couple of Rails apps DOESN'T REALIZE THE VALUE-ADD YET. FTFY.

simonpantzare 12y ago

I think Ben Golub plays a part in that. As superuser2 says, enterprises make up a large chunk of Docker's market. Github is also tapping into this segment—most of their recent hires are extensions to their enterprise support, sales, and account management teams.

lobster_johnson 12y ago

Docker has professional sales and marketing staff. Most open source projects don't because they aren't really businesses. ElasticSearch is a billion-dollar company; then there's Pivotal, Basho, Github, Mozilla etc., all organizations that have managed not just to become popular open-source projects, but profitable companies. Docker themselves raised $15m recently.