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I feel like you do your kid a real diservice by worrying about what they 'need' to know, and then dictating that their time is spent learning that time is fini

by pitt1980 12y ago

I feel like you do your kid a real diservice by worrying about what they 'need' to know, and then dictating that their time is spent learning that time is finite, time wasted on learning what all the other 4 year olds know is time that can't be spent learning what they actually want to be learning that will make them a unique member of society any competitive advantage they'll have in the future will come from them knowing something all the other kids don't know, they'll get almost no advantage from learning the same things every other kid had drilled into them as well (and that's not even accounting for how much more quickly they'll learn what they're naturally curious about)

ramayac 12y ago
Money quote right here: "Time wasted on learning what all the other 4 year olds know is time that can't be spent learning what they actually want to learning that will make them a unique member of society", you sir, are absolutely right. +1
- rimantas 12y ago
  Except it makes pretty big (and I'd say wrong) assumption, that kids want to learn.
  - Tenhundfeld 12y ago
    I disagree. Anecdotally, every kid I've known has been a naturally curious creature, and I think most kids do want to learn. However, many kids do not enjoy being taught, especially in a school setting. The early years of school are more about teaching children to sit quietly and keep their hands to themselves, which has nothing to do with satisfying curiosity. That may be what you're saying, but I think the difference is important enough to be more explicit.
  - pitt1980 12y ago
    kids are like everyone else, they respond to their feedback the question of whether they want to learn is roughly irrelevant here the question is more, should their learning mirror every other kids learning? the basic stuff, (reading, writing, numerical literacy) is so basically useful that'll it will be learned in context of exploring nearly any facit of life I'd argue that encouraging your kids to explore their universe is vastly better education, than worrying about any paticular skill set in any paticular time frame skill sets are almost always easier to obtain in context, as needed

ramayac 12y ago

Money quote right here: "Time wasted on learning what all the other 4 year olds know is time that can't be spent learning what they actually want to learning that will make them a unique member of society", you sir, are absolutely right. +1

rimantas 12y ago
Except it makes pretty big (and I'd say wrong) assumption, that kids want to learn.
- Tenhundfeld 12y ago
  I disagree. Anecdotally, every kid I've known has been a naturally curious creature, and I think most kids do want to learn. However, many kids do not enjoy being taught, especially in a school setting. The early years of school are more about teaching children to sit quietly and keep their hands to themselves, which has nothing to do with satisfying curiosity. That may be what you're saying, but I think the difference is important enough to be more explicit.
- pitt1980 12y ago
  kids are like everyone else, they respond to their feedback the question of whether they want to learn is roughly irrelevant here the question is more, should their learning mirror every other kids learning? the basic stuff, (reading, writing, numerical literacy) is so basically useful that'll it will be learned in context of exploring nearly any facit of life I'd argue that encouraging your kids to explore their universe is vastly better education, than worrying about any paticular skill set in any paticular time frame skill sets are almost always easier to obtain in context, as needed