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http://www.meltingmama.net/files/noamountofalcoholissafe.pdf http://www.meltingmama.net/files/noamountofalcoholissafe.pdf "When it comes to cancer, no amount o

http://www.meltingmama.net/files/noamountofalcoholissafe.pdf http://www.meltingmama.net/files/noamountofalcoholissafe.pdf "When it comes to cancer, no amount of alcohol is safe." "The evidence showing lower risks for diabetes mellitus, stroke, heart failure, and total mortality stand in stark contrast to the harms associated with excessive alcohol consumption." "The evidence for the harmful effects of alcohol is stronger than the evidence for its beneficial effects." And finally: "Other than celebrity drunk-driving stories, we rarely see headlines about the harm caused by alcohol. Dr. Rehm comments, 'I do not know why a beneficial link would be more important than a detrimental link, if the beneficial link overall is about one tenth of the detrimental link. We have counted how many studies are reported in the press, and there are many more reports on the beneficial link than on the detrimental link between alcohol and health.' " It would seem our news media has the opposite problem from admitting drinking is healthy.

Camillo 12y ago
https://d1435t697bgi2o.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/nejm-alcohol.jpg https://d1435t697bgi2o.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/201... Yes, alcohol benefits some things and hurts some others - that is why in the chart above the line for "all causes" (of death) does not exactly mimic the one for "all cardiovascular diseases". But see where the low point of the "all causes" line is. To paraphrase: when it comes to teetotaling, no amount of cancer studies make it safe.
- wwweston 12y ago
  I've seen information like that (and that chart is fascinating, BTW, if for no other reason than how flat the line is for women). And as a non-drinker with several risk factors for cardiovascular diseases, I've even brought it up with doctors -- I've asked a cardiologist and two GPs if I should consider adding it for that reason. The response has been lukewarm at best: basically, they've all said that it probably wouldn't hurt, but that the benefits were marginal, may present other risks, and it would be secondary to losing weight, getting regular exercise, and watching dietary risk factors (or, for that matter, taking statins, which so far I've decided against). Still, it's about time for my yearly visit with the cardiologist and a GP, perhaps I should take the chart with me on my next visit. (OTOH, the urologist I've been seeing advises me to avoid alcohol, so...)
- shalmanese 12y ago
  Original study: http://while-science-sleeps.com/pdf/275.pdf http://while-science-sleeps.com/pdf/275.pdf
auganov 12y ago
It does seem to me the problem is opposite. Most (everyone so far I think) I ever talked to about the risks of alcohol seems to be completely surprised when a relationship between alcohol and cancer is mentioned. Usually they assume I've mistaken the risks of smoking with alcohol. Wiki has a nice write up .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer I don't endorse or claim to comprehensively know the leading research on that, but it does definitely seem like the majority of people are only aware of the addiction risks and assume that health risks only come with massive alcohol consumption.

Camillo 12y ago

https://d1435t697bgi2o.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/nejm-alcohol.jpg https://d1435t697bgi2o.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/201... Yes, alcohol benefits some things and hurts some others - that is why in the chart above the line for "all causes" (of death) does not exactly mimic the one for "all cardiovascular diseases". But see where the low point of the "all causes" line is. To paraphrase: when it comes to teetotaling, no amount of cancer studies make it safe.

wwweston 12y ago
I've seen information like that (and that chart is fascinating, BTW, if for no other reason than how flat the line is for women). And as a non-drinker with several risk factors for cardiovascular diseases, I've even brought it up with doctors -- I've asked a cardiologist and two GPs if I should consider adding it for that reason. The response has been lukewarm at best: basically, they've all said that it probably wouldn't hurt, but that the benefits were marginal, may present other risks, and it would be secondary to losing weight, getting regular exercise, and watching dietary risk factors (or, for that matter, taking statins, which so far I've decided against). Still, it's about time for my yearly visit with the cardiologist and a GP, perhaps I should take the chart with me on my next visit. (OTOH, the urologist I've been seeing advises me to avoid alcohol, so...)
shalmanese 12y ago
Original study: http://while-science-sleeps.com/pdf/275.pdf http://while-science-sleeps.com/pdf/275.pdf

auganov 12y ago

It does seem to me the problem is opposite. Most (everyone so far I think) I ever talked to about the risks of alcohol seems to be completely surprised when a relationship between alcohol and cancer is mentioned. Usually they assume I've mistaken the risks of smoking with alcohol. Wiki has a nice write up .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer I don't endorse or claim to comprehensively know the leading research on that, but it does definitely seem like the majority of people are only aware of the addiction risks and assume that health risks only come with massive alcohol consumption.